Gers Fan Banning Order-Famine Song

[craig 5,199]

I'll sub you mate until the SE Asia crisis hits - its a man made cycle

 

too funny - what a splendid idea - you loan me, then when the crisis hits I can loan you. A self-perpatuating cycle.

[Bluedell 5,614]

What did he do to defend himself.

 

Exactly .

[pete 2,499]

Guys If you want to hold a personal arguement please do it privately.

Edited December 21, 2008 by pete

[maineflyer 0]

Guys If you want to hold a personal arguement please do it on privately.

 

I'm quite finished thanks.

[Frankie 8,552]

Any problems about moderation, please speak to admin privately.

 

Similarly, and even more importantly, let's debate like adults and refrain from the pointless name-calling.

 

Now back on topic please, gentlemen.

 

[maineflyer 0]

Every time I agree with MF I seem to get in trouble with the admin, fukkin pisses me off, as you just seem to touch the argument that everyone is talking about and it or you are pumped.

We as a support are getting shafted big time and anytime the debate is about that it seems to be an orchestrated effort to nullify the thread.

 

I've found that the actual problems facing this club seem to be uncomfortable subjects for many members. More time is spent asserting personal moral credentials or the propriety of presentation than what our enemies are up to.

 

The famine song has attracted such condemnation because it hit the spot dead centre with the Earl Haigs. It was almost unanswerable and therefore absolutely had to be hounded out of town in a frenzy of indignation. What leaves a taste in the mouth is the willingness of the authorities to mollify the scumbags by twisting the laws of the land to suit the hysteria.

[pete 2,499]

I have started a thread on deleted posts in the Blue lounge Please go there to finish/start the discussion.

[JMS 0]

I've found that the actual problems facing this club seem to be uncomfortable subjects for many members. More time is spent asserting personal moral credentials or the propriety of presentation than what our enemies are up to.

 

The famine song has attracted such condemnation because it hit the spot dead centre with the Earl Haigs. It was almost unanswerable and therefore absolutely had to be hounded out of town in a frenzy of indignation. What leaves a taste in the mouth is the willingness of the authorities to mollify the scumbags by twisting the laws of the land to suit the hysteria.

 

What's your take on the Handwringers do you think they'll agree to the Hokey Cokey or will they actually get a set.

[pete 2,499]

What's your take on the Handwringers do you think they'll agree to the Hokey Cokey or will they actually get a set.

 

Personally i think the procurator fiscal would be crazy to take anyone to court for singing the hokey cokey. I can't believe that anyone would be found guilty of sectarianism for a song that has been accepted as normal for hundreds of years. But then again they just take you to court in the knowledge that it is affordable to plead guilty and above the most peoples means to fight it.

[maineflyer 0]

What's your take on the Handwringers do you think they'll agree to the Hokey Cokey or will they actually get a set.

 

JMS,

 

They achieve what they set out to simply by implying or threatening prosecution. The law itself is almost never tested because, as we've seen elsewhere in this thread, very few people will put themselves in jeopardy when so few are willing to stand up and be counted. In effect, the law is irrelevant, the country is 'managed' (or is that farmed) on the basis of threat alone, with seldom any recourse to the law.

 

We live in a fearful and cowed society. Citizens have abdicated responsibility entirely to a political elite, one that exists and practises far beyond the walls of parliament or the courts. The cabal of motivated republican/socialist/catholics who ride roughshod over the majority in Scotland do so because they have been unchallenged for so long that they now believe they are untouchable. Sadly, with every new capitulation, that belief becomes ever more justified.

 

Every time someone declares we must fall in line because "them's the rules" when the rules are patently crass and contrived in the self-interest of a few, we slide another few inches down the slope to injustice.

 

I hope Frankie is right and they have brought ridicule upon themselves with the hokey cokey nonsense. However, these are people who have shown no shame so far, only the mindless drive to assert their cult. Their arm has become long and a lot of things that have happened already have surprised me greatly - I wouldn't now be at all surprised to see Mr Murray eventually make another announcement that the hokey cokey is banned from Ibrox.

 

And that brings me to the one thing that does make my blood boil; the stupid treachery of people like David Murray. They don't actually understand enough to make informed decisions but they must defend their moral and social credentials at all costs and will issue any crazy edict to do so. These people are much worse than our enemies.

Edited December 22, 2008 by maineflyer