Guest 5StarBear Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 While i do accept the Ulster tint to our history i doubt if it would ever get a mention if our neighbours from the dark side were not so pro-eire. Probably if the tims claimed to be Croatian we would be looking for ways to look for a Serbian link and flying Serbian flags . Over the last few decades the word Ulster has always been linked with Feed the Pigeons and up to the knees in ****** blood, so it is not totally surprising a younger person would put 2+2 together and get sectarian. I will give the Ulster day the benefit of the doubt but to be honest it does stink of one-upmanship against the tims. Excellent post Pete, well put. It is my opinion that the whole Ulster Day was an embarassing attempt at one-upmanship, but was badly timed and poorly executed. Had it been the contiuation of a series of 'Celebration Days' then fair enough, I could swallow that, but other than the 'Holland/Orange Day' (which was equally cringeworthy, I doubt we will ever hear of any other nations being celebrated.....................dare I say it, particularly those with a Latin heritage! BTW, well played Partick Thistle, that looked like one tough game tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maineflyer 0 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Excellent post Pete, well put. It is my opinion that the whole Ulster Day was an embarassing attempt at one-upmanship, but was badly timed and poorly executed. Had it been the contiuation of a series of 'Celebration Days' then fair enough, I could swallow that, but other than the 'Holland/Orange Day' (which was equally cringeworthy, I doubt we will ever hear of any other nations being celebrated.....................dare I say it, particularly those with a Latin heritage! BTW, well played Partick Thistle, that looked like one tough game tonight. Personally, I thought the orange cup final was an amazing spectacle and certainly had the participation of far too many bears ever to be called cringeworthy. I'll never forget that sight. What I do find cringeworthy however is the faux embarrassment of a certain type of supporter who wears a surgical mask and gloves while watching Rangers, just in case he catches something. Maybe even something as vile as one-upmanship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted September 24, 2008 Author Share Posted September 24, 2008 Personally, I thought the orange cup final was an amazing spectacle and certainly had the participation of far too many bears ever to be called cringeworthy. I'll never forget that sight. What I do find cringeworthy however is the faux embarrassment of a certain type of supporter who wears a surgical mask and gloves while watching Rangers, just in case he catches something. Maybe even something as vile as one-upmanship. Is Setanta piped in to the The southern general? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 8,552 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 We are just going to end up going back over the ground that was covered in the previous thread on this. However I strongly disagree with your post, Pete. Rangers have always been a strong unionist club and the traditions are numerous and longstanding (picture of the Queen in the dressing room, the loving cup etc, etc.). Part of the unionist link has also been connections with Northern Ireland. Part of the problem is that people with an agenda try and lump everything related to Ulster into the sectarian bag. You're doing that yourself to a certain extent by claiming the only reason why there is an Ulster connection is because of Celtic, which I would refute. There is nothing wrong with being connected to Ulster and celebrating that connection, whether it is with the wonderful Ulster Scots banner, the Ulster day last week, or the various songs that are sung celebrating its history etc. F.T.P. and TBB have nothing to do with Ulster (TBB is actually a Glasgow song), and we mustn't allow any mention of it to be instantly made negative. Saturday was a positive day, and positives should be celebrated and encouraged. The GAWA realised that and have totally transformed themselves. People should be encouraged to consider this view (although there are right and wrong ways of doing that) and not just listen to the one-sided press that we have in this country at the moment. Great post. Even if there was an element of mischief-making about the Ulster Day, so what? On the day itself, the groups involved carried it off without any sectarianism and the displays looked superb - as was the case with the Oranje Day and the Union/Saltire days we've had previously. Let's not buy into unfair generalisations spread by malicious journalists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maineflyer 0 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Is Setanta piped in to the The southern general? Who's this general of whom you speak and does he have a pipe in one or more orifice? I could have just said it was a daft bloody post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon 0 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 What I do find cringeworthy however is the faux embarrassment of a certain type of supporter who wears a surgical mask and gloves while watching Rangers, just in case he catches something. Maybe even something as vile as one-upmanship. I could have just said it was a daft bloody post. Why the need for the above comments when someone may simply disagree with your point of view? Its a forum and everyone is entitled to their opinion without the need for sarcasm in a reply! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maineflyer 0 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Why the need for the above comments when someone may simply disagree with your point of view? Its a forum and everyone is entitled to their opinion without the need for sarcasm in a reply! And good morning to you too, Super Moderator. Did you have a difficult night? As always, I'm happy to defer completely to your shining vigilance and necessary lack of humour. I withdraw my unwarranted criticism, it wasn't a daft bloody post. It was, of course, a well crafted viewpoint which I will be happy to recommend to everyone I meet today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon 0 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 And thankyou for your sarcasm again and totally ignoring my question.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maineflyer 0 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 And thankyou for your sarcasm again and totally ignoring my question.... My apologies. I assumed the further passage of time would allow you to reconsider whether your question was entirely necessary. The first quote you gave isn't sarcasm, it is simply a reasonably interesting use of language to convey a point of view. The second quote is an example of humour, which is perhaps used too seldom in communication these days to be recognised when it arises. I think you may be striving too hard to find offence where none exists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon 0 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 The reply to me, what was that then? I obviously don't get your style of sense of humour.......Cant agree with your response to the first wuote, you appeared to have a go at a certain 'type' of supporter merely because they do not share your viewpoint. I may be wrong, but is how it came across. As I said, everyone and anyone should be entitled to their own opinion on any matter without ridicule. If I'm wrong and interpretted your comments incorrectly, I would apolagise. I havent read anything to change my mind though Im afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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