Are you happy that people are protesting?

[JMS 0]

Attacking posters in here is not going to get you a better rangers. We are all just working guy's who give a right or wrong opinion. The art of debate is to turn someone round by a convincing argument. Not by belittling people.

 

Without attacking or belittling you, I work for a living as well [i'm on night shift], I do give a different opinion, which is up for debate, if someone does disagree with me it is okay, but I may not agree with that but it is debate.

[pete 2,499]

Without attacking or belittling you, I work for a living as well [i'm on night shift], I do give a different opinion, which is up for debate, if someone does disagree with me it is okay, but I may not agree with that but it is debate.

 

I agree with you but saying(not a Quote) you are wrong so you know nothing or is SDM your pal is not a part of the debate but an extra to take the wind out of the sails of the other debater.

[JMS 0]

That is not debating in my opinion but assuming only you are right.

 

Sorry mate do not select part's of my individual posts and try to put them in the wrong context.

 

I do not assume that I am right in anything I only believe that I want the best for Rangers if that upsets some people so be it.

 

You may believe that I am wrong in what I say, you are allowed to do so, it does not mean you are right either.

[JMS 0]

I agree with you but saying(not a Quote) you are wrong so you know nothing or is SDM your pal is not a part of the debate but an extra to take the wind out of the sails of the other debater.

 

I did not realise it was an extra to take the wind out of the sails, it was not my intention.

[pete 2,499]

I did not realise it was an extra to take the wind out of the sails, it was not my intention.

 

Hopefully we can go out from, that everyone on this board wants the best for Rangers. Whether that is wanting SDM out, or a supporter of SDM. Actually there are very few who can give an honest opinion as very few know exactly what is going on.

[JMS 0]

Hopefully we can go out from, that everyone on this board wants the best for Rangers. Whether that is wanting SDM out, or a supporter of SDM. Actually there are very few who can give an honest opinion as very few know exactly what is going on.

 

My opinion is to get all the facts out in the open and let us all decide.

[calscot 0]

I am totally convinced that the signings of late were due to the threat of a mass protest. I don't like the idea but sometimes you have to stand on a few toes to be heard.

 

I don't know if that is the reality. You don't need a threat of a protest at all to respond to the disappointment and discontent of your fans/customers. The outcry is there and well exposed without the need of a protest.

 

Governments don't change policy because of protests, they change them when they gauge public opinion to be very strong.

 

To be honest in this case, I think the protest is almost superfluous.

 

It would take an idiot not to predict huge unrest among Rangers fans had something not been done to try and rectify the damage done by the Euro exit and the sale of Cuellar.

 

Murray knew he had to pull out the stops if he wanted the fans back onside and if the protesters think it was all down to them, then they have huge egos indeed.

 

When you make a mistake at work do you try to rectify it because you may be disciplined or because of your pride? Murray and Walter have brought in the new players for themselves as well as the fans.

 

Nobody likes failure.

[pete 2,499]

I don't know if that is the reality. You don't need a threat of a protest at all to respond to the disappointment and discontent of your fans/customers. The outcry is there and well exposed without the need of a protest.

 

Governments don't change policy because of protests, they change them when they gauge public opinion to be very strong.

 

To be honest in this case, I think the protest is almost superfluous.

 

It would take an idiot not to predict huge unrest among Rangers fans had something not been done to try and rectify the damage done by the Euro exit and the sale of Cuellar.

 

Murray knew he had to pull out the stops if he wanted the fans back onside and if the protesters think it was all down to them, then they have huge egos indeed.

 

When you make a mistake at work do you try to rectify it because you may be disciplined or because of your pride? Murray and Walter have brought in the new players for themselves as well as the fans.

 

Nobody likes failure.

 

I did not mean just the few that were protesting outside ibrox. I was referring to the total discontent of all Rangers supporters on websites, on the street and in general. Nothing to do with ego as even the most moderate of supporters were starting to mutter words of discontent.

[Zappa 0]

Okay ma man tell me why you you can be sure HE doesn't see it that way, you his pal?

Because I'm almost 100% certain that SDM respects the management staff he employs. You don't get as far as he has by employing people you don't respect & have a lot of time for. My point with that is that he knows fine well that RFC needs success & also knows fine well that his management staff will be called into question as much as he will if the success isn't delivered.

 

And no I'm not his pal.

 

Take away the rabble of protesters, WHY? is the whole club on the line.

I think that's pretty obvious. Does being out of Europe & facing a 'must win the SPL' season ring any bells? As I've already said, imo rabbles of protesters aren't going to help these issues or win us the SPL for that matter. They could in fact actually do more damage to the overall moral at RFC & that's why I think we (or at least I) have to call such actions into question. If I wanted to cause chaos at parkhead one way I could achieve it is by dawning some hoops & protesting outside their ground. Not that I could personally do that (just wouldn't be able to get the stink off), but maybe you can see where I'm coming from.

 

Do you actually know how much money has come out of his [sdm] pocket, and I mean cash not paper money.

Of course not & I don't think that's much of an issue either, so I don't see your point at all.

[pete 2,499]

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Originally Posted by JMS

Do you actually know how much money has come out of his [sdm] pocket, and I mean cash not paper money.

 

 

Of course not & I don't think that's much of an issue either, so I don't see your point at all.

 

The fact that i believe JMS is making,( i am sure he will answer for himself) is that many people think David Murray has pumped millions into rangers which according to the accounts is totally untrue. Yes he did cover the 50mill share issue but that debt seems to still be a talkng point.