CammyF 9,421 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) On 20/04/2025 at 10:32, buster. said: Sounds a good idea. I'll leave you in your simplistic La La land of forget underlying sustainability issues, just get all the appointments and decisions right and we'll be winning titles and Cups. Expand Hahaha And I'll leave you to wallow in crap dished by a board who've taken us to a point where we can't operate and our only chance of improving is to sell to new investors. Our underlying sustainability issues are ALL the fault of the board. Edited April 20 by CammyF 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
L72 192 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 20/04/2025 at 10:32, buster. said: Sounds a good idea. I'll leave you in your simplistic La La land of forget underlying sustainability issues, just get all the appointments and decisions right and we'll be winning titles and Cups. Expand It really is this simplistic though mate. You seem determined to label this as some sort of insurmountable curse that has plagued us for decades, must all be connected and related to have knock on effects to one another. We got a clean slate when Dave King Three Bears etc came in, and again rather than reducing costs and picking the correct appointments and infrastructure, the board gambled when we won the league, decided to spend on legacy projects, have a record of poor managerial appointments, spending money on poor players, nonexistent scouting departments, basically failing to care for the football department. It really is as simple as putting the correct people in place in terms of scouting and recruiting, director of football operations and managerial appointments. Also ensuring your CFO isn't hoodwinked by crypto scams like Bisgrove was. We've been run like an amateur Sunday league outfit for the last 5 years. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 5,616 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 20/04/2025 at 10:40, L72 said: that has plagued us for decades, must all be connected and related to have knock on effects to one another. We got a clean slate when Dave King Three Bears etc came in, Expand DK&Co had significant Legacy issues and a team in the lower leagues when they took over. Why ? Because the 'spivs' had ripped the club apart and taken advantage of a gullible support. Why? Because we went bust and they picked up the pieces. Why ? Because of Sir Duped. Why? Because he introduced a culture of paying for stuff with money he didn't have and distract the support with moonbeams and we lapped it up. _----------------_ Ps. Doesn't excuse DK&co from their mistakes. Eg. Retail, etc We need to break the approximately 30 year habit of losing mucho money. Not only that, but the prospective new owners need to make money. How do they do it ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
L72 192 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) On 20/04/2025 at 11:05, buster. said: DK&Co had significant Legacy issues and a team in the lower leagues when they took over. Why ? Because the 'spivs' had ripped the club apart and taken advantage of a gullible support. Why? Because we went bust and they picked up the pieces. Why ? Because of Sir Duped. Why? Because he introduced a culture of paying for stuff with money he didn't have and distract the support with moonbeams and we lapped it up. _----------------_ Ps. Doesn't excuse DK&co from their mistakes. Eg. Retail, etc We need to break the approximately 30 year habit of losing mucho money. Not only that, but the prospective new owners need to make money. How do they do it ? Expand Include the rest of the bit about DK and co 👍🏻 "and again rather than reducing costs and picking the correct appointments and infrastructure, the board gambled when we won the league, decided to spend on legacy projects, have a record of poor managerial appointments, spending money on poor players, nonexistent scouting departments, basically failing to care for the football department." While they inherited problems to begin with, we navigated that and they created their own problems. Their tanking money on shite, has nothing to do with the last guys tanking money on shite. Edited April 20 by L72 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 5,616 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 20/04/2025 at 11:07, L72 said: Include the rest of the bit about DK and co 👍🏻 "and again rather than reducing costs and picking the correct appointments and infrastructure, the board gambled when we won the league, decided to spend on legacy projects, have a record of poor managerial appointments, spending money on poor players, nonexistent scouting departments, basically failing to care for the football department." While they inherited problems to begin with, we navigated that and they created their own problems. Their tanking money on shite, has nothing to do with the last guys tanking money on shite. Expand The only joined up and consistent part of the last 3 decades is our propensity to lose money. Generally, the mindset of the support is to go along with it, ask for more and ask for it, now. How do we become sustainable under the new owners? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
L72 192 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 20/04/2025 at 11:27, buster. said: The only joined up and consistent part of the last 3 decades is our propensity to lose money. Generally, the mindset of the support is to go along with it, ask for more and ask for it, now. How do we become sustainable under the new owners? Expand So you're saying it's our fault for wanting a winning football club? And not the fault of poor owners and decision makers who couldn't deliver that? It has been said numerous times, it's very simplistic - Put the right people in the right positions, if you're actively able to buy low, sell high, identify a constant source of young talent, while delivering results on the park - then it takes care of itself. Cheaping out and not putting this foundations in place means that we typically overpay, hemorrhage money on staff and coaches, sign poor players, spend money on other projects like NEH instead of consolidating the league from a winning position. It all adds up to being poorly run, on the fault of Dave King and the Three Bears etc, who themselves became spivs, looks at us, we're a joke where the only way out is being taken over. Stop trying to lay blame at us, if it's somehow the supporters fault for wanting a Rangers to be proud of, stop trying to connect dots that aren't there. Dave King, The Parks etc ran us into the fucking ground. Their decisions, their incompetence and poor judgement. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 9,421 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 20/04/2025 at 11:45, L72 said: So you're saying it's our fault for wanting a winning football club? Expand That's exactly what Buster has been saying for months if not years!!!! Us, the mainstay of financial input to the club, who have stick with the club through the relegation, the barron years, the spivs amd now this current failure of a board are "unreasonable" and "impatient" and that's why the board make incorrect decisions! You couldn't make it up. On reflection, we may have found Graeme Park's Gersnet log-in........ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
L72 192 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 20/04/2025 at 12:01, CammyF said: That's exactly what Buster has been saying for months if not years!!!! Us, the mainstay of financial input to the club, who have stick with the club through the relegation, the barron years, the spivs amd now this current failure of a board are "unreasonable" and "impatient" and that's why the board make incorrect decisions! You couldn't make it up. On reflection, we may have found Graeme Park's Gersnet log-in........ Expand Indeed. Imagine wanting the thing you're most passionate about to succeed and do well! What bastards we are, making them run our club like an amateur outfit!! He certainly seems to hold us in the same contempt! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo 7,932 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 The good old days are long gone but one thing we haven’t had since 2012 is someone/persons who knew how to run a football club we’ve stumbled along like amateurs you only have to look at transfer dealings money paid handsome wage packets seldom if ever get this back for some reason I see to many contracts being allowed to run down new owners first priority,Be Professional run it like a business not a benevolent fund . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 5,616 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 20/04/2025 at 12:30, compo said: The good old days are long gone but one thing we haven’t had since 2012 is someone/persons who knew how to run a football club we’ve stumbled along like amateurs you only have to look at transfer dealings money paid handsome wage packets seldom if ever get this back for some reason I see to many contracts being allowed to run down new owners first priority,Be Professional run it like a business not a benevolent fund . Expand You'll have to go back further than 2012 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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