Match Thread [FT] Rangers 0 - 2 Hibernian

[Tannochsidebear 2,502]

3 hours ago, Rousseau said:

This is a good example of my problem with xG. Dessers had 4 really good chances on Saturday that most people watching would have said he should have scored maybe 7 times out of ten, so each should have an xG of around 0.70 and yet the total xG combined is only 1.05 and looks like we created nothing. We created better chances than Hibs did (3 chances 2 goals) but we have Dessers and Hibs dont. 

[Rousseau 11,564]

3 hours ago, Tannochsidebear said:

This is a good example of my problem with xG. Dessers had 4 really good chances on Saturday that most people watching would have said he should have scored maybe 7 times out of ten, so each should have an xG of around 0.70 and yet the total xG combined is only 1.05 and looks like we created nothing. We created better chances than Hibs did (3 chances 2 goals) but we have Dessers and Hibs dont. 

That's your opinion, though. We'll all have a different opinion of whether a player should have scored or not. 

 

This xG model tells you how many past players have actually scored from that type of shot - taking into account numerous variables of hundreds of thousands of shots. It's pretty accurate. 

 

A penalty has an xG of 0.79. Were Dessers' chances similar to a penalty? A free shot, centre of goal with no defenders around him?

 

Dessers has an xG of 12.26 this season in the league.  He has scored 12. 

 

Haaland has an xG of 21.40 this season in the league. He has scored 21.

 

Can you beat that? Have you watched more than hundreds of thousands of shots? Are you able to take into account 20 plus variables? 

[CammyF 9,251]

Rangers get beat and the usual suspects are to blame. Amazed Tav hasn't been blamed yet. 

[Scott7 6,637]

1 hour ago, Bluedell said:

As for giving the youth a chance, it's very dangerous at this point. if our losing streak continues, they would get associated with it and it could damage their careers. I understand the concept but it would be far better for them to be introduced into a winning team.

Which is the reason “youth” and “development” and Rangers are incompatible.

[der Berliner 4,119]

5 hours ago, Bluedell said:

We tried a different formation in the first half in Dundee and look what happened.

 

As for giving the youth a chance, it's very dangerous at this point. if our losing streak continues, they would get associated with it and it could damage their careers. I understand the concept but it would be far better for them to be introduced into a winning team.

We played a 5 at the back and two DMs away to Dundee. Not Bilbao, Leipzig or some high profile non-stop attacking side. We essentially reduced our "attacking" threat of last Saturday down by another player or two at Dundee, which allowed them to come at us. They wanted to win that game, much like Hibs. We marginally upped that to our usual 4-2-3-1 (if I consider Barron the DM in a 4-3-3), but played a striker out of position, while the wingbacks were not attacking like they meant to be. Tav was somewhere in the middle, Jefte hardly receiving the ball at all. We had plenty of possession because our defenders played triangles with the midfielders and vice versa. There was no pace and hardly any penetration.

 

That is no different from what we have seen for weeks, months, if not years.

 

Just a general observation.

 

After 30 mins, the game backed for a back-3, one DM, 4 midfielders (two wingers included), and a couple of strikers. So we'd have a goal scoring threat. Instead, we were down to the usual hopeful, bit part show that Hibs (like many others) can easily counter.

[der Berliner 4,119]

4 hours ago, CammyF said:

Rangers get beat and the usual suspects are to blame. Amazed Tav hasn't been blamed yet. 

Read the game thread up there again. Tav was not helping in any way, but leaving the slot where he does the most damage far too often.

[CammyF 9,251]

11 minutes ago, der Berliner said:

Read the game thread up there again. Tav was not helping in any way, but leaving the slot where he does the most damage far too often.

A winner - acht well, it was short odds on who'd reply.

 

I thought both goals were Borna's fault.......

[der Berliner 4,119]

1 hour ago, CammyF said:

A winner - acht well, it was short odds on who'd reply.

 

I thought both goals were Borna's fault.......

.... only a wee reminder of your ailing eye-sight. That is: you missed the anguish about Tav during the match.

[onevision 1,631]

8 hours ago, compo said:

What annoys me is the league was over some time ago so why not experiment different formation different tactics give the boys their chance to stake a claim 

When second place is secure is the time to experiment with staff and formations