L72 20 Posted Monday at 11:53 Share Posted Monday at 11:53 8 minutes ago, ranger_syntax said: Football, a historically working-class sport, has been turned into a glossy corporate commodity. The game’s institutions claim to be ‘inclusive’, yet they enforce a strict monoculture, where only certain political and cultural narratives are permitted. Why do so many Rangers supporters want to enforce U.E.F.A.s strict monoculture? Is it that critics of the banner are out of touch with working class culture? (Please state your middle class occupation to disagree) I agree with the banner. Putting my neck on the line for another banning on a Rangers forum. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger_syntax 4,731 Posted Monday at 12:19 Share Posted Monday at 12:19 24 minutes ago, L72 said: I agree with the banner. Putting my neck on the line for another banning on a Rangers forum. I don't even know what the banner meant. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
L72 20 Posted Monday at 12:22 Share Posted Monday at 12:22 2 minutes ago, ranger_syntax said: I don't even know what the banner meant. Defend Europe from woke foreign ideologies that have no place within our civilisations, i.e Sharia Courts, first cousin marriages, underage marriages, gender ideology etc. Basically anything incompatible with Western cultures. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluedell 6,033 Posted Monday at 12:41 Author Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 12:41 46 minutes ago, L72 said: I agree with the banner. Putting my neck on the line for another banning on a Rangers forum. I don't think it matters whether fans agree or disagree with the banner. Either way, it was still extremely stupid to have at it a UEFA game. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
L72 20 Posted Monday at 12:42 Share Posted Monday at 12:42 Just now, Bluedell said: I don't think it matters whether fans agree or disagree with the banner. Either way, it was still extremely stupid to have at it a UEFA game. UEFA dictating what is racist or not, is another shadowy realm that ought to be investigated and fought against tbh. Police Scotland even said there was nothing criminal about the banner our fans displayed. Wasn't that when UEFA was pushing the BLM message and trying to tell us the poppy was banned. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaBoy 2,503 Posted Monday at 12:47 Share Posted Monday at 12:47 1 hour ago, ranger_syntax said: Football, a historically working-class sport, has been turned into a glossy corporate commodity. The game’s institutions claim to be ‘inclusive’, yet they enforce a strict monoculture, where only certain political and cultural narratives are permitted. Why do so many Rangers supporters want to enforce U.E.F.A.s strict monoculture? Is it that critics of the banner are out of touch with working class culture? (Please state your middle class occupation to disagree) Gareth Southgate, ex England Manager 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluedell 6,033 Posted Monday at 12:50 Author Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 12:50 Just now, L72 said: UEFA dictating what is racist or not, is another shadowy realm that ought to be investigated and fought against tbh. UEFA didn't say it was racist specifically, but a club either abides by the rules and their rulings or they don't take part in their competitions. It was clearly discriminatory, if your own interpretation of the banner is correct. If people want to do fight against UEFA then go ahead, but it'll fail, and fans shouldn't be selfish to use the club for their own individual ideologies when it's clearly going to result in punishment and threaten the attendances of other fans at future games. 5 minutes ago, L72 said: Police Scotland even said there was nothing criminal about the banner our fans displayed. I don't see the relevance. Just because something isn't criminal doesn't mean it's acceptable to UEFA. We, as a club, aren't going to win any fights against UEFA. We're not from a big league and don't have any influence. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 6,033 Posted Monday at 13:00 Author Share Posted Monday at 13:00 1 hour ago, ranger_syntax said: Football, a historically working-class sport, has been turned into a glossy corporate commodity. The game’s institutions claim to be ‘inclusive’, yet they enforce a strict monoculture, where only certain political and cultural narratives are permitted. Why do so many Rangers supporters want to enforce U.E.F.A.s strict monoculture? It's not Rangers supporters who want to enforce it. It's UEFA who are enforcing it. The supporters just don't want us punished by UEFA, which could lead to them being banned from certain matches. 1 hour ago, ranger_syntax said: Is it that critics of the banner are out of touch with working class culture? (Please state your middle class occupation to disagree) I'm not sure what the relevance of working or middle class is to whether you don't want your club punished, when it doesn't have to be. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
L72 20 Posted Monday at 13:00 Share Posted Monday at 13:00 9 minutes ago, Bluedell said: UEFA didn't say it was racist specifically, but a club either abides by the rules and their rulings or they don't take part in their competitions. It was clearly discriminatory, if your own interpretation of the banner is correct. If people want to do fight against UEFA then go ahead, but it'll fail, and fans shouldn't be selfish to use the club for their own individual ideologies when it's clearly going to result in punishment and threaten the attendances of other fans at future games. I don't see the relevance. Just because something isn't criminal doesn't mean it's acceptable to UEFA. We, as a club, aren't going to win any fights against UEFA. We're not from a big league and don't have any influence. They said racist/discriminatory. Which it was neither. It doesn't discriminate based on any groups or protected minorities, and it doesn't racially go against any groups. I'll say that perhaps we shouldn't play these games with UEFA's ball effectively, but if that banner had gone up in a domestic game, is anyone batting an eyelid? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7 6,590 Posted Monday at 13:13 Share Posted Monday at 13:13 (edited) When I started going to football there were huge crowds mostly men who made their living woking with their hands and many of them straight from the yard or the factory for a 2pm kickoff. There was constant hubbub augmented by cheers and counter cheers, shouts of abuse, bad language of the worst kind though not chanted in unison and rarely within earshot of a woman, fights, blokes passing out, general disorder and angry demos at the front door (until five o’clock when the pubs opened) What there was not, was any suggestion of politics other than the superficial loyalist/rebel stuff. Political and general social statements are a foreign invention, recently imported, latched onto by the usual suspects and sadly copied by UBs. Rangers are not restricting free speech. Only what people say or do within the curtilage of the stadium. Edited Monday at 17:33 by Scott7 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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