ranger_syntax 4,725 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 45 minutes ago, ChelseaBoy said: In this context, those shouting racism are only looking at the use of the word "foreign". I looked at another place where this was being discussed. Lots of people were upset about the use of 'Defend Europe' as these terms are the property of forbidden 'far-right' European groups. I don't know any details. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uilleam 6,293 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 4 minutes ago, Bluedell said: My understanding of the Rangers Riot Crew was that they were the 'fighting division' (for lack of a better term) of the UBs, although I'm not 100% sure that they are part of them. They have organised fights with other similar fan groups, usually in a remote location, both in the UK and overseas. A typical fight would be 8 v 8 for a minute 20 seconds. The fights generally seem to be carried out with an element of respect. RRC have formed a friendship with Southside Lyon (SSL). Just in case anyone is interested. How do I join? Is it by invitation, only? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 6,004 Posted March 20 Author Share Posted March 20 49 minutes ago, ChelseaBoy said: In this context, those shouting racism are only looking at the use of the word "foreign". So is it racist to criticise the US for many of its social ideologies that have crossed the pond and have been adopted by those looking to silence free speech? There is nothing racist about that banner, but it will be used to silence alternative views and create a disproportionate response. Perhaps UEFA agree that there's nothing racist about the banner but maybe they feel it's discriminatory. It's such a generic term that to try and define it and argue whether the banner is or isn't discriminatory is a waste of time. If UEFA think it is then there's nothing we can do to change their mind. It's their competition and to take part we have to abide by their rules and their decisions, whether fair or not. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 6,004 Posted March 20 Author Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, Uilleam said: How do I join? Is it by invitation, only? Guess you'd need to join the UBs first, but who knows. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger_syntax 4,725 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 3 minutes ago, Bluedell said: They have organised fights with other similar fan groups, usually in a remote location, both in the UK and overseas. A typical fight would be 8 v 8 for a minute 20 seconds. I think these fellows would be better off watching Fight Club before discussing any rules. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uilleam 6,293 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) 28 minutes ago, ranger_syntax said: I'm not sure what point you're making but this is a great opportunity to talk about Lenin. Imagine if we had a guy with his personal qualities in charge. We wouldn't be under the boot heel of U.E.F.A. for very long. Criticising Nazism, or Bolshevism, or any number of other 'ideologies' (Poujadism? Gaullism? Italian Fascism? Chavismo? Fidelismo? Maoism? Titoism? Hoxhaism?...) is not explicitly, nor implicitly, racist, although they may be of foreign origin. With Lenin in charge -more so with Marshal Stalin- there would be few boardroom schisms, splits, or even debates, and if there were, they would be shut down with expedition, and with due diligence, and, em, despatch. UEFA, and FIFA, would be exposed to the masses as paper tigers. Edited March 20 by Uilleam 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uilleam 6,293 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 26 minutes ago, ranger_syntax said: I looked at another place where this was being discussed. Lots of people were upset about the use of 'Defend Europe' as these terms are the property of forbidden 'far-right' European groups. I don't know any details. How would this, I think snappier, more cogent, slogan play: From the Urals to the Sea Europeans shall be free ? A ban from European competition? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaBoy 2,498 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 39 minutes ago, ranger_syntax said: I looked at another place where this was being discussed. Lots of people were upset about the use of 'Defend Europe' as these terms are the property of forbidden 'far-right' European groups. I don't know any details. Ive heard that refrain from many centre right parties across Europe including the Tories and Reform in the UK. It's far-right bogeyman syndrome again. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo 7,747 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Green brigade Union bears just an embarrassment to both clubs the two clubs should be handing out life time bans to the lot of them just a bunch of gubs out to ruin it for everyone else. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutton_blows_goats 6,016 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 23 minutes ago, compo said: Green brigade Union bears just an embarrassment to both clubs the two clubs should be handing out life time bans to the lot of them just a bunch of gubs out to ruin it for everyone else. Everyone, anyone. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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