Ready1314 51 Posted Friday at 18:40 Share Posted Friday at 18:40 (edited) 9 minutes ago, CammyF said: So Stephen Gerrard, one of the greatest midfield players / captains of his generation was wrong to make Tav captain and play him continually? So Gio, a European Cup winner, World Cup finalist and wonderful midfield player was wrong to make Tav captain and play him continually? So Barry Ferguson, best home-grown Rangers player for a generation (at least), decorated Captain is wrong to make Tav captain and play him? With all due respect, maybe Gio, SG and BF know what makes a Ranger and a Captain more than wee Boab the joiner? If we had more players with Tav's attitude, numbers, fitness etc in the last decade, maybe, just maybe "he" wouldn't have seen off 7 managers. Haha are you related to the dud ? How many trophies did all these great managers win with Tavernier as their captain ? The guy has been a calamity from day one , the gaffs are off the scale with him , the filth love it when hes playing and target him every game , just like most teams do now. I used to go into the start of every season saying if we start Goldson and Tavernier we are winning nothing and thats almost exactly how it turned out every time. His fitness is the only thing thats a positive , the guy is a shocking defender. I also never understood why he was never tried for a few games in midfield. Edited Friday at 18:41 by Ready1314 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 9,120 Posted Friday at 18:59 Share Posted Friday at 18:59 14 minutes ago, Ready1314 said: Haha are you related to the dud ? How many trophies did all these great managers win with Tavernier as their captain ? The guy has been a calamity from day one , the gaffs are off the scale with him , the filth love it when hes playing and target him every game , just like most teams do now. I used to go into the start of every season saying if we start Goldson and Tavernier we are winning nothing and thats almost exactly how it turned out every time. His fitness is the only thing thats a positive , the guy is a shocking defender. I also never understood why he was never tried for a few games in midfield. No, and he's far from a dud. Again, with all due respect I'll listen to SG, Gio, BF and the likes who sing Tav's praises rather than the opinion of wee Shug the plumber. Also, when did football become a one man game? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ready1314 51 Posted Friday at 19:05 Share Posted Friday at 19:05 1 minute ago, CammyF said: No, and he's far from a dud. Again, with all due respect I'll listen to SG, Gio, BF and the likes who sing Tav's praises rather than the opinion of wee Shug the plumber. Also, when did football become a one man game? Again , the three guys you mention are all great players but absolutely useless as managers. Who said anything about one man , the squad has been brutal for years mainly down to the useless managers we have had , not just Tavernier , but he has been up there with the worst of them for years. I get it , some like him but I know a loser when I see one. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 9,120 Posted Friday at 19:08 Share Posted Friday at 19:08 1 minute ago, Ready1314 said: Again , the three guys you mention are all great players but absolutely useless as managers. Who said anything about one man , the squad has been brutal for years mainly down to the useless managers we have had , not just Tavernier , but he has been up there with the worst of them for years. I get it , some like him but I know a loser when I see one. So as great players, they think Tav is a player and a leader, yet you don't, and we've to believe your assessment over theirs? This time with no respect, aye right, think I'll pass. Dud? https://footystats.org/players/england/james-tavernier Maybe the new custodians should stop their search for a new manager and give you a call..... 😁 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ready1314 51 Posted Friday at 19:19 Share Posted Friday at 19:19 7 minutes ago, CammyF said: So as great players, they think Tav is a player and a leader, yet you don't, and we've to believe your assessment over theirs? This time with no respect, aye right, think I'll pass. Dud? https://footystats.org/players/england/james-tavernier Maybe the new custodians should stop their search for a new manager and give you a call..... 😁 Haha as managers the three of them are clueless , for the second time. Will gladly have a wager with you that if the new manager plays Tavernier next season we will win nothing again. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexscottislegend 2,576 Posted Friday at 19:26 Share Posted Friday at 19:26 Tav has every right to be considered a Rangers legend. I cannot think of anyone - past or present - who has come anywhere near his goals and assist numbers. (Maybe Chris Lawler at Liverpool?) Remember he stuck with us through the dark days in the lower depths. Yes, he has his faults defensively and he's terrified of Maeda, but if he didn't have those flaws, he would be playing for Real Madrid. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 9,120 Posted Friday at 19:45 Share Posted Friday at 19:45 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Ready1314 said: Haha as managers the three of them are clueless , for the second time. Will gladly have a wager with you that if the new manager plays Tavernier next season we will win nothing again. Again, your blaming Tav and Tav alone for us not winning a trophy. Clueless managers don't tend to go a league campaign undefeated of get to European Cup Finals beating the likes of Dortmund along the way. "Clueless managers" but class players who know a player when the see one. For the final time, "clueless managers" or not, I'll still listen to / agree with their assessment of Tav as a player over yours every day of the week. Its embarrassing how some Rangers fans think, we have one of the top performing RBs in Britain / Europe (check his stats) yet he's a "dud" and the reason we never win trophies. Tav's time at Rangers is up, he'll move on at the end of the season and we'll need to nominate a new whipping boy. Edited Friday at 19:57 by CammyF 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 4,033 Posted Friday at 19:56 Share Posted Friday at 19:56 Cammy has his next best friend, it seems. Just for clarity, I am not Ready1314 in disguise ... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FDMA 32 Posted Friday at 20:26 Share Posted Friday at 20:26 Thought you were meaning lodge 1304 😉 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 9,120 Posted Friday at 20:52 Share Posted Friday at 20:52 What a list of duds this is The 10 Highest-Scoring Defenders in Football History 1. Ronald Koeman 253 2. Daniel Passarella 175 3. Fernando Hierro 163 4. Laurent Blanc 153 5. Sergio Ramos 140 6. James Tavernier 137 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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