JohnMc 3,081 Posted Tuesday at 11:19 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:19 37 minutes ago, Idisi said: Having read through the available details of the expulsion from the top division, the financial horrors that followed, and the return, I have the greatest respect for the Rangers support, the club's managers and players. Yet, I have to disagree with regard to the patience. You are in your 10th season of the return to the top division. That is 30 Scottish titles available to you, but the return was and remains at 3. If you were 1. FC Union Berlin, this would be acceptable. But even with you rival from the East, you can surely expect a return of 10 titles in the two cups, if not league titles? In my opinion, for your patience, you deserve the utmost respect. I think you're confusing patience with loyalty. In those 10 seasons we've had 6 full time managers and 5 caretaker managers and I'd hate to try and count how many players. Only 1 player has been here all that time so that gives you an idea on player turnover. The Rangers support are pretty loyal, we keep turning up, travelling, and supporting, but we're not patient. That's not always a bad thing, but it is a reality. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 9,164 Posted Tuesday at 11:28 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:28 7 minutes ago, JohnMc said: I think you're confusing patience with loyalty. In those 10 seasons we've had 6 full time managers and 5 caretaker managers and I'd hate to try and count how many players. Only 1 player has been here all that time so that gives you an idea on player turnover. The Rangers support are pretty loyal, we keep turning up, travelling, and supporting, but we're not patient. That's not always a bad thing, but it is a reality. It's both. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMc 3,081 Posted Tuesday at 11:32 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:32 17 minutes ago, Uilleam said: Does this apply to those "Rangers' men" in the boardroom, or to those "Rangers' men" with hefty shareholdings? If it does -and is there a compelling reason, which may be evidenced, why it doesn't?- then we should be looking for more rationality -and dare I say it?- more strategic thinking in the boardroom and among the hired help. Would it be a reasonable bet to assume that we will get these, or anything approaching medium term thinking, far less the long run, from 'fans' (qua 'fans') in charge, and all that may be required is a changing of the Rangers' guard, every now and again? Not a wager I should take. If anybody has a better option for the Club other than the Yankee dollar, I have yet to hear it. Regrettable, perhaps, but true. Glasgow Rangers: a sports' business, coming to a stadium near you. I don't think they've shown much in the way of patience. They've employed 6 managers so very little patience there. Every 'plan' for running the club sustainably seems to get ripped up the minute results and performances attract supporter criticism, so no sense of patience there either. We've gone through CEOs, Directors of Football, Sporting Directors and so on. At a time when we should have had stability and patience the board have reacted to every onfield set back and started again. I suspect the Americans will be more patient with their plan, whatever that might be. I suspect they'll be far less swayed by supporter emotion. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutton_blows_goats 5,967 Posted Tuesday at 11:34 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:34 Just now, JohnMc said: I don't think they've shown much in the way of patience. They've employed 6 managers so very little patience there. Every 'plan' for running the club sustainably seems to get ripped up the minute results and performances attract supporter criticism, so no sense of patience there either. We've gone through CEOs, Directors of Football, Sporting Directors and so on. At a time when we should have had stability and patience the board have reacted to every onfield set back and started again. I suspect the Americans will be more patient with their plan, whatever that might be. I suspect they'll be far less swayed by supporter emotion. Patience isn't going to be a thing when other mob are heading closer and closer to 10 in a row. The real problem is we reset the counter on ten a few years back and then made a pigs ear of it. Now back to square 1. What are they at now, 4? Things can change quickly in football but the reality is we have little time to get it right. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo 7,670 Posted Tuesday at 14:55 Share Posted Tuesday at 14:55 3 hours ago, JohnMc said: I don't think they've shown much in the way of patience. They've employed 6 managers so very little patience there. Every 'plan' for running the club sustainably seems to get ripped up the minute results and performances attract supporter criticism, so no sense of patience there either. We've gone through CEOs, Directors of Football, Sporting Directors and so on. At a time when we should have had stability and patience the board have reacted to every onfield set back and started again. I suspect the Americans will be more patient with their plan, whatever that might be. I suspect they'll be far less swayed by supporter emotion. More managers than trophies since 2012 the fans have been patient for far to long they want a team that can compete at home and hopefully get into a champions league spot to earn some real money instead of the crumbs we'll get from the Thursday night cup 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uilleam 6,212 Posted Tuesday at 16:16 Author Share Posted Tuesday at 16:16 What's up, WhatsApp? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yorkie Bear 716 Posted Tuesday at 16:56 Popular Post Share Posted Tuesday at 16:56 33 minutes ago, Uilleam said: What's up, WhatsApp? I am very sceptical of the takeover, verging on outright fear. However I need to reappraise my position if Celtic fans are so opposed to it. I don't think they are bright enough for a double bluff. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 9,164 Posted Tuesday at 17:16 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:16 18 minutes ago, Yorkie Bear said: I am very sceptical of the takeover, verging on outright fear. However I need to reappraise my position if Celtic fans are so opposed to it. I don't think they are bright enough for a double bluff. This is also my take, if they're trying to derail it, they are fearing it. I'm sure those involved wi be laughing their socks off at the attempts to paint us in a bad light. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Ro55 982 Posted Tuesday at 17:30 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:30 26 minutes ago, Yorkie Bear said: I am very sceptical of the takeover, verging on outright fear. However I need to reappraise my position if Celtic fans are so opposed to it. I don't think they are bright enough for a double bluff. I thought it was just me. My spidey senses are going nuts concerning this takeover. I just cannot see how others making loads of money from the club benefits us long term. And these guys will expect loads of return on their investment. It's what they do. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franc Ergs 1,787 Posted Tuesday at 17:53 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:53 i can understand their concern, given they have so many financial experts within their support. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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