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26 minutes ago, JohnMc said:

It's hard to be anything other than emotional after a result like that. Months, indeed years, of frustration rise to the top and spill out. Players, management, directors, owners and indeed other supporters are to blame. People need sacked, someone, anyone. The need for blood is a given. 

 

In January 1967 Rangers lost to Berwick Rangers in the Scottish Cup, until yesterday a match regarded by many as our worst defeat in the tournament. By 1967 Rangers hadn't won the league for 3 years, and it would be another 8 years before we won it again. In total we went 11 years without a title, from 1964 to 1975, difficult times to be a bluenose I imagine. There was a demand for blood after the Berwick defeat. Jim Forrest and George McLean were dropped and never played for the club again, both left the club permanently within a few weeks. It was a difficult season for Rangers in 67. We reached the final of the Cup Winners Cup, a match Jim Forrest would almost certainly have started in had we not sold him a few months before. We lost 1-0 to Bayern Munich, playing the match with a centre half up front. Celtic won the treble and the European Cup. Manager, Scott Symon, had credit in the bank after 13 years at the club, but he was gone by November. We'd appoint 3 more managers before we won the league again. 

 

The manager who finally took us to the league title again was Jock Wallace, who was in goal for Berwick that day. Wallace is unfairly maligned as an old-school blood and thunder manager. In actual fact he was a tactician and a genius with psychology. It took Wallace 3 seasons to finally win the league. He recognised that what Rangers lacked was mental, not physical. The players didn't believe they could win so he took them to a beach in East Lothian and made then run up and down the sand dunes until they were sick. Afterwards he told them they were now the fittest side in the country and they believed him. It was nonsense, but that doesn't matter, the mental barrier had been broken. Rangers won 3 titles in the next 4 seasons. Wallace left and we wouldn't win the league again for another 9 seasons. Sometimes it's difficult being a bluenose. 

 

Yesterday is still raw. That will pass and we'll realise the Queen's keeper had the game of his life, he saved 5 goal bound shots, plus one was headed off the line. We'll realise they had one shot on target and it went in.Defenders and keeper need to look at themselves. We'll also realise our captain failed to convert a penalty. Under pressure, knowing not scoring would see us lose, knowing not scoring would pile untold pressure on the players, knowing not scoring might cost the management team their jobs. He didn't score.

 

I wonder how much of our problems are mental, not physical. 
 

I don't think the calls for the manager to be sacked are solely down to yesterday's performance / result. 

 

There has been plenty of evidence served up by Clement to show he isn't the manager to take us forward.

 

We could rehash the stats of our away performances, or the capitulation in the league least season when we got ourselves a lead in the title race.

 

We could spend hours debating his starting 11s, his substitutes and his inability to change the course of a game.

 

Tav missed a penalty yesterday.  I think we all realise this. Its not the first he's missed, but I don't think there was a fan left in the stadium who'd have wanted anyone other than Tav taking that penalty. 

 

To question his mentality after the pressure penalty kicks he's scored for us, not to mention the many winning goals and assists is just plain daft.

 

We shouldn't need a dubious 95th minute penalty to take Queens Park into extra-time at Ibrox.

 

Tav, like every other player who participated yesterday need to take a long hard look at themselves. As does the manager. At least Tav had the "bottle" to say so in his post match press conference, unlike his manager who blamed everything (including his "budget") bar himself.  

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Who's going to come in and pay back all these loans the board and others have lent the club then invest their hard earned into trying to turn round a fallen former great club anybody got Elon Musk's phone number give him a ring  

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45 minutes ago, Scott7 said:

I suppose it’s good to get a reminder about this. Been a few weeks since we last saw it.

Well, maybe people should read it and not imply that the board are blameless.

 

It was in direct response to a poster who said that the board weren't to blame for yesterday.

 

Oh and you can skip / ignore posts.

 

Context is everything.

 

 

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24 minutes ago, compo said:

Who's going to come in and pay back all these loans the board and others have lent the club then invest their hard earned into trying to turn round a fallen former great club anybody got Elon Musk's phone number give him a ring  

Those who are loaning us the money are the ones who got us into this mess. Who should pay off these debts if not those who caused them? 

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