Strikers

[Ski 15]

51 minutes ago, Sutton_blows_goats said:

Can you guarantee we will be able to sell him in the summer? And for as much as we get offered now? Its just kicking the can down the road IMO. The problem of replacing is the same.

Right or wrong, clubs are happier to sell in the summer because there is more time to source a replacement. January is a desperation buy/sale, or about getting fringe players some playing time. we might not get as much money for him in the summer, but won't have to pay as much for a replacement. He is worth more than he was last summer, so fingers crossed we can still get £4M for him. And Shankland will be free this summer instead of the more than £4M he was last summer and he would also still cost money now.

[Scott7 6,340]

2 hours ago, Ski said:

I think we are top league scorers in the first 15 minutes of games 

Pity about the remaining 75.

[Frankie 8,739]

19 hours ago, Ski said:

Put Dessers in their team, he would have the trophies. Put Kyogo in ours and he wouldn't. SuperAlly would not have won with this team last few years. Neither has the UK's highest ever scoring defender

That's an interesting way of looking at it actually and probably true to an extent.

I'd argue the criticism Dessers gets; not just from Rangers fans but other commentators in particular, really is unique in it's hypocrisy. He's clearly far from the world's best striker but he's also effective enough for the most part.

[Rousseau 11,140]

1 hour ago, West London Bear said:

And I think this is what gets missed.  If we got say £4m for him, last season that wouldn't have bought you Shankland.  

It would have got you two Igamanes, though...

[Sutton_blows_goats 5,776]

1 hour ago, Frankie said:

That's an interesting way of looking at it actually and probably true to an extent.

I'd argue the criticism Dessers gets; not just from Rangers fans but other commentators in particular, really is unique in it's hypocrisy. He's clearly far from the world's best striker but he's also effective enough for the most part.

Looking at the posts in this and many other threads there is a common theme. Winning is everything, and when we are not winning everything is hyper analysed and critiqued.

 

If we were paying Dessers half what we are paying him (which is estimated to be what Kyogo was earning when he first arrived) then everyone would be happy with his contribution in isolation. Our lack of success wouldn't be as much of a factor, though it always really factors. 

 

As many have said Dessers has been a victim of circumstance for the most part. When he is scoring he is not doing enough as we are not competitive, when he is not scoring we are not competitive and no one is available to fill the gap.

We also have had too many, and still do on high wages contributing nothing which while isnt his fault, he is a sellable asset while others offer nothing with no resale value.

 

Its possible he stays with us for the next few seasons, we rack up some titles and trophies and he leaves a cult hero.

 

[JohnMc 2,939]

3 hours ago, Ski said:

But if you want to get rid of our top scorer in January, you need a near guarantee you can improve the squad - Koppen cannot give that. Sell him in the summer instead.

It's not that we need a 20 goal a season striker to replace Dessers, it's we need someone who can stay fit and lead the line well. We did some basic analysis recently and Rangers score more goals when he's not leading the line than when he is. Whether that's a tactical tweak we make or simply because Igamane is better at holding the ball up and bringing others into the attack, I can't say. As you rightly point out Dessers is a 20 goal a seasons striker, but if he's not scoring Rangers struggle. Whereas when Igamane isn't scoring other players chip in more. 

Having Igamane and Dessers fit and firing is working quite well just now, Dessers as an impact sub or alongside Igamane is ideal with our current squad. I certainly wouldn't want him to leave without at least one other forward player joining in his place. Without wishing to jinx him Dessers fitness is one of his strengths and not something we should overlook to be fair to him. 

[Ski 15]

39 minutes ago, JohnMc said:

It's not that we need a 20 goal a season striker to replace Dessers, it's we need someone who can stay fit and lead the line well. We did some basic analysis recently and Rangers score more goals when he's not leading the line than when he is. Whether that's a tactical tweak we make or simply because Igamane is better at holding the ball up and bringing others into the attack, I can't say. As you rightly point out Dessers is a 20 goal a seasons striker, but if he's not scoring Rangers struggle. Whereas when Igamane isn't scoring other players chip in more. 

Having Igamane and Dessers fit and firing is working quite well just now, Dessers as an impact sub or alongside Igamane is ideal with our current squad. I certainly wouldn't want him to leave without at least one other forward player joining in his place. Without wishing to jinx him Dessers fitness is one of his strengths and not something we should overlook to be fair to him. 

Good points, well made. Lone striker doesn't suit Dessers' game as he is poor at bringing others into the game and works better with a support striker nearby. 

[West London Bear 6]

2 hours ago, Rousseau said:

It would have got you two Igamanes, though...

Well that's only true if you are lucky enough to find those hidden treasures.  The key point being, for £4m and if you are looking only for the finished article, you ain't getting much. 

[Rousseau 11,140]

25 minutes ago, West London Bear said:

Well that's only true if you are lucky enough to find those hidden treasures.  The key point being, for £4m and if you are looking only for the finished article, you ain't getting much. 

I don't think we should be spending £5m on the 'finished article' if that article is Dessers - I said so at the time of signing him. Our money can be better spent on younger players like Igamane.

[Franc Ergs 1,751]

3 hours ago, Rousseau said:

It would have got you two Igamanes, though...

Two Igamanes'.. 🤔 now that'd be some strikeforce.