Match Thread [FT] Manchester United 2 - 1 Rangers (Dessers 88)

[Blue Moon 1,435]

Gutted to get nothing out of that game.  Credit to the players for staying in the game for so long.

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[Graeme Ro55 912]

Butland is a poor keeper imo. Raskin done well, as did Tav, Propper and Big Leon before he went of. Dessers proving the nay sayers wrong again, should have started. Thought we were very unlucky not to get a pen for Maguire on Dessers. I'm starting to really worry about Bajrami now. I thought he would have started to show something but he is starting to look very average and scared of the fifty fifties. I have no right to be dissapointed about the result, but I am. 

[RANGERRAB 3,916]

Have we really replaced McGregor as GK since he retired?

McLauchlin and McCrorie weren’t good enough so went out and got Butland on a hefty contract but he’s now beginning make too many mistakes in my view.

Kelly looked solid enough recently but I tend to think he’s a bit small for a GK. 

[Gribz 1,002]

That hurt at the end, its bad enough when teams like that score in injury time against anyone but after that superb Dessers finish I thought we'd got the draw I thought we would get. 

 

You always have to feel for keepers, they dont get minor errors, Butlands punch was just a split second mis timed. 

 

Was there about 800M difference between those teams? Considering we was also a depleted team! 

 

The minimum was to make a knock out tie and we have that. 

[BlackSocksRedTops 3,895]

I really should know better. I was attempting to gauge the reaction to a Rangers defeat by sampling some online contributions last night and I'm staggered that anyone can come away from the game feeling angry. Frustrated...yes. Disappointed...yes.

 

We are nowhere near being able to lose 9/10 first team players and rock up to Man Utd and expect to win. I get that we can be upset with some individual errors but the manager played the team 99% of fans would have picked. And please spare me the Dessers should have started in a front 2 hindsight nonsense. No-one was calling for that prior to kick off.  

[ranger_syntax 4,552]

47 minutes ago, BlackSocksRedTops said:

We are nowhere near being able to lose 9/10 first team players and rock up to Man Utd and expect to win.

And yet we only lost to an injury time goal.

 

Just accept that we are near even if it doesn't make much sense.

[Graeme Ro55 912]

9 hours ago, RANGERRAB said:

Have we really replaced McGregor as GK since he retired?

McLauchlin and McCrorie weren’t good enough so went out and got Butland on a hefty contract but he’s now beginning make too many mistakes in my view.

Kelly looked solid enough recently but I tend to think he’s a bit small for a GK. 

I think Kelly's over all game is better than Butland's. For such a big guy Butland does not command his area at all and his positioning and distrabution are poor.  

[alexscottislegend 2,465]

Talk about Dessers being an enigma - I think the biggest enigmas are Yilmaz and Bajrami. I wouldn't be sorry to either of them leave.

[Gribz 1,002]

Have to say I think that would be Dessers best goal I can remember, a proper No.9 goal. He held off Maguire easily, his touch was superb then he smashed it in the corner. 

 

I think there has been harsh comments about Butland, I really like him, he is a top shot stopper which is the first thing keepers should be doing. He isnt in the same league as Goram, Klos or McGregor but certainly in the next bracket. I think he can lack a bit of confidence sometimes but it wasnt long ago he was England's No.2 to Pickford at the 2018 World Cup. 

[der Berliner 3,912]

42 minutes ago, alexscottislegend said:

Talk about Dessers being an enigma - I think the biggest enigmas are Yilmaz and Bajrami. I wouldn't be sorry to either of them leave.

Well, IMHO, Dessers is just a striker who hits the goal rather frequently, but also misses a few good opportunities. No different to any striker we had before. What makes people angry is that we do not score enough goals to put games to bed ... and our lone striker bears the most of that. No matter who he is and that he is not the actual problem. Yet, truth be told, every team will envy us for a 20-goal striker we have in Dessers. He still is but an international striker of Nigeria, not Germany, England, Spain or the like. That is where we are. Danilo is as injury prone as Sterling, albeit both looking like units you won't square up with in the street.

 

Ridvan has a bad streak right now, he's much better on the left too, as we saw early on last night (though highlights might be deceiving). What would be a concern is that neither the B-team seems to have an adequate right-back to fill the gap if Tav is injured, and that the first team doesn't have a back-up to Tav either (even though he wouldn't play much given the penalty-king's fortitude). That said, Jefte, still but 22, set a few feet wrong in recent weeks as well. Of course, nothing of that should be put under the microscope, as many of the current generation of supporters likes to do.

 

Bajrami, well, these players grow hot and cold, maybe he's more of a fair-weather player. But that's for the manager to see and react to.

 

On hindsight, what sort of madness drove our high-ups to the decision to keep Hagi out of the team and EL squad?! Granted, Danilo was injured and UEFA created a right good mess with this super-large and long "Group Phase", with no option to put players in later on. But for the sake of some bonus money they essentially wrecked the season and denied us our most creative player for Europe.

 

NB: I'm not talking the players above up or, indeed, down. It's just where we are right now in terms of quality. "Wanting more" will not change the reality we are in.

Edited 8 hours ago by der Berliner