Match Thread [FT] Rangers 3 (Igamane 16'; Cerny 20'; Diomande 25') - 1 St Johnstone

[Sutton_blows_goats 5,668]

Just seen the St Johnstone goal, how was a foul not given for the jersey pulling on Hagi??

[CammyF 8,677]

17 minutes ago, Sutton_blows_goats said:

Just seen the St Johnstone goal, how was a foul not given for the jersey pulling on Hagi??

I can't remember thinking this during the game. Will need to watch the highlights. 

[CammyF 8,677]

First half was decent with a high tempo, some good attacking play and 3 good goals (although the 3rd was a gift).

 

Second half was the complete opposite. St Johnstone changed their formation and once again our manager struggled to counteract their change.

 

3 points and limp on to Wednesday against a struggling Aberdeen who you can bet will be up for it. 

[Fa1833 250]

The Ultra Bears' message certainly reflects the frustration felt by many fans right now. No one can deny that we've seen some disappointing results lately, and it's understandable that supporters feel let down after giving their all. These fans dedicate countless hours and significant financial resources to supporting the club – travelling to games, buying season tickets, and contributing to the matchday atmosphere. They deserve to see their unwavering support rewarded with ambition and a commitment to success. It's crucial that the board recognizes this and invests in the team to ensure we are competing at the highest level.
 

[compo 7,379]

Union bears ultra bears are these the masked warriors who ran away from half a dozen green and white clad morons before Christmas last year on Glasgow’s Argyle street we can do without these idiots latching on to our club .

[Bluedell 5,785]

12 hours ago, CammyF said:

The UB didn't move any fans, the club moved them so those affected should direct their ire at the club.

 

It's also worth remembering that you don't own your seat at Ibrox, you pay to use it from season to season. It isn't your property. 

They did ask to get moved so they're not totally blameless,

 

As for your second paragraph, are you really going there? Does your seat mean that little to you that you would be happy to accept a move away from your friends that you've built up relationships with over 20 years?

 

However the seat move was only one of the reasons that people do get pissed off with the UBs at times.

 

 

[Bluedell 5,785]

12 hours ago, CammyF said:

The board will be pissing themselves tonight. A divided support is exactly what they want. Whilst we're all arguing amongst ourselves, the spotlight is off them. 

 

Somethings never change. 

I really doubt that they are pissing themselves or are that they want a divided support. The board want success as much as the rest of the support. I doubt they look on us in the same way as Murray did.

 

They'll be frustrated as everyone else and to try and paint them as the second coming of Murray isn't helpful and perhaps a sign that emotions are high.

 

The one thing about yesterday's protests and recent statements is that nobody is coming up with proposed alternatives. Not one. If the directors walk away and withdraw their £22m loans (as at 30/6/24) where do the payments for next month's salaries come from? Who do the protesters want to take over?

 

I don't think anyone denies that there hasn't been mismanagement but we have extremely limited resources to change things and there is nobody looking to take over from the current board. 

 

Frustrations are high but if change for the better is to be achieved, there needs to be a different approach and not done with meaningless platitudes.

 

[CammyF 8,677]

49 minutes ago, Bluedell said:

They did ask to get moved so they're not totally blameless,

 

As for your second paragraph, are you really going there? Does your seat mean that little to you that you would be happy to accept a move away from your friends that you've built up relationships with over 20 years?

 

However the seat move was only one of the reasons that people do get pissed off with the UBs at times.

 

 

Plenty of people have asked for and received a seat move, me included (when I joined TBO). I'm sure the BF4 section was identified for TBO and those wanting to join were moved there.

 

As for the 2nd paragraph, yes I am going there, as its the truth. You or me don't own our seat at Ibrox, we pay to use it season by season. I like my seat and I like the people around me but I understand that I don't own the seat. 

 

It may only have been one of the reasons but ultimately those who were moved only have the club to blame. 

 

Their reaction on Sunday was horrific - throwing objects including coins at fellow fans is a new low. 

 

As for the UBs they do plenty of good, they do plenty of bad but getting blamed for seat moves and being attacked by fellow fans is despicable behaviour. 

[CammyF 8,677]

44 minutes ago, Bluedell said:

I really doubt that they are pissing themselves or are that they want a divided support. The board want success as much as the rest of the support. I doubt they look on us in the same way as Murray did.

 

They'll be frustrated as everyone else and to try and paint them as the second coming of Murray isn't helpful and perhaps a sign that emotions are high.

 

The one thing about yesterday's protests and recent statements is that nobody is coming up with proposed alternatives. Not one. If the directors walk away and withdraw their £22m loans (as at 30/6/24) where do the payments for next month's salaries come from? Who do the protesters want to take over?

 

I don't think anyone denies that there hasn't been mismanagement but we have extremely limited resources to change things and there is nobody looking to take over from the current board. 

 

Frustrations are high but if change for the better is to be achieved, there needs to be a different approach and not done with meaningless platitudes.

 

Those making statements and protesting don't need to offer solutions or alternatives.

 

When they were protesting against the Spivs, they had no alternatives or solutions, they just wanted them out (and were abused for doing so).

 

That they offer no solutions or alternatives doesn't and should deflect from.their legitimate protest and points. 

 

As for not looking at us as Murrat did, they lied to us about Copland project and treat us like something they scraped off their shoes - seems rather Murray like to me. 

 

This sums it up for me 

Edited Monday at 10:25 by CammyF

[Scott7 6,277]

42 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Those making statements and protesting don't need to offer solutions or alternatives.

Agreed  -  so long as it’s understood that it’s just an exercise in venting anger and frustration.