Match Thread [FT] Dundee 1 - 1 Rangers (Cerny 34)

[CammyF 8,769]

Just now, Scott7 said:

Not one of these advocates has a solution. Self-comforting arm waving.

 

What’s needed is a young Fergie determined to prove himself but the actual Fergie’s first real managerial post was Aberdeen. He’d already cut his teeth and it didn’t matter if he failed. 

They're fans groups, any of their potaential "solutions" are meritless. They have no say in any "solutions"

 

If we want to believe that those groups, who, along with others, plough millions in to the club are merely "arm waving", then we are playing a dangerous game. 

[Yorkie Bear 669]

I'm a tad suspicious of statements from fans groups and how the group as a whole have come to that decision. Perhaps @CammyF can help with his experience from the Blue Order (I'm not getting a dig, it's a serious question).

 

It's times like this that I'm grateful for Gersnet - diverse opinions and (generally) civilised debate about Rangers. Nobody can accuse Gersnet of group think.

 

 

Edited January 11 by Yorkie Bear

[CammyF 8,769]

1 hour ago, Yorkie Bear said:

I'm a tad suspicious of statements from fans groups and how the group as a whole have come to that decision. Perhaps @CammyF can help with his experience from the Blue Order (I'm not getting a dig, it's a serious question).

 

It's times like this that I'm grateful for Gersnet - diverse opinions and (generally) civilised debate about Rangers. Nobody can accuse Gersnet of group think.

 

 

The Blue Order never really made statements from memory. It is also worth remembering that TBO never had the numbers that The Union Bears have and were never as organised. 

 

I can think of one when Rangers sent the entire group letters about standing during games. The gist was if the standing continued, the club would ban the group.

 

After one midweek game against DUFC (if I remember correctly) several members of the group received letters informing them they were banned from the next home match. Now, some of those banned weren't at the DUFC game, so it was obvious that the club had just selected random seats / people and banned them (not the entire group). 

 

So at the next game, those who "ran" TBO spoke to people in the group and said they would release a statement saying the above.

 

The UBs are far more organised, they travel to away games, meet up and walk to the ground together. They also have / part of The Copland Collective which is used to get support and membership for the group.

 

I would assume they talked about this statement whilst travelling back from Dundee and into Friday.

 

Probably doesn't necessarily mean all members of UB agree, but shows another group of fans displeasure. 

 

The Union Bears will always split the support but having been part of The Blue Order (which was "older" fans wanting to bring back old Rangers songs) and witnessed first hand the "hostility" we faced from the club and fellow fans, I tend to cut them some slack.

 

I thought their statement was a little "scatter-gun" as it mentioned manager, senior players and board, but I couldn't really disagree with anything they said. 

 

It's interesting that since Thursday night, the travelling fans at full-time, the RSA, fan media (who pay a lot of money to get access to players, managers press conferences) and now UBs have all made "statements" saying its time up. David Edgar reiterated this last night. 

 

Whilst they don't speak for the entire fanbase (nobody does), those mentioned above are a fairly good gauge of what the general support are thinking.

 

 

Edited January 11 by CammyF