The club, the board and the future

[JohnMc 2,839]

How much do you think naming rights for Ibrox would bring in? It's reported Scottish Gas pay slightly over £2 million a year for Murrayfield. I don't think we'd get as much as that, for various reasons. I'd be surprised if this hasn't been looked at already. I don't think I'd be happy knowing the ground was now known as the BetFred Stadium or similar, because that's the type of company who'd be interested. 

 

Criticism of the board is fair enough, mistakes have been made. Stepping back and trying to be dispassionate, if that's possible, then I think we have a good manager in charge, as good as our budget will allow. I'm comfortable with the Chairman appointment and we've brought in a CEO with extensive football experience and an understanding of the peculiarities of Scotland. I'm also relatively happy with our most recent recruitment, it's been better than previous seasons. So I'm willing to see how this plays out now. We're not going to challenge for the league this season, we don't have the players, that's clear to anyone who has watched us. We can give them a bloody nose though, so the Scottish Cup and Europe remain for us. Similar recruitment next summer and things might look very different next season. I'm willing to wait and see on that, accepting the frustrations this season is bringing. 

 

Lastly, Celtic have spent big recently, yet are still relying on 3 Japanese players their old manager knew of and Callum McGregor who has been at the club forever. There recent signiongs have been expensive and average. This talk of Tierney signing for them doesn't worry me. He's a good player but his injury record makes Tom Lawrence look like the Incredible Hulk, he'll command a very big salary and he'll have zero value when his contract is up. Perhaps they can afford that type of player, time will tell. 

[Rousseau 10,946]

38 minutes ago, CammyF said:

They have been, but so has debt / spending, that's one of my points. 

Hence the cost-cutting.

[lenny3k 693]

29 minutes ago, JohnMc said:

Lastly, Celtic have spent big recently, yet are still relying on 3 Japanese players their old manager knew of and Callum McGregor who has been at the club forever. There recent signiongs have been expensive and average. This talk of Tierney signing for them doesn't worry me. He's a good player but his injury record makes Tom Lawrence look like the Incredible Hulk, he'll command a very big salary and he'll have zero value when his contract is up. Perhaps they can afford that type of player, time will tell. 

This is actually a really good point. I saw a list of Rodgers sigings since he returned to Celtic in 2023 and it looks like they have spent more than £50m on players and of Rodgers signings, the only first team regulars are:

Schmeichel (free)

Kuhn (loan -> £3m)

 

There are a few others that are in and out

McCowan (£1m)

Engels (£11m)
Trusty (£6m)

Valle (£1.3m loan fee)

Bernardo (Loan -> £3.5m)

Idah (£9.5m)

 

Then after that there are 10 players totaling more than £20m in transfer fees that rarely, or never, play

 

Thats at best a 40% success rate on a £50m+ outlay

[CammyF 8,594]

18 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

Hence the cost-cutting.

Yes, but they are still losing money - they've just had to "invest" another £8M to see us to the end of the season. 

 

They don't appear capable of stopping the spiral. 

Edited Monday at 13:56 by CammyF

[CammyF 8,594]

21 minutes ago, lenny3k said:

This is actually a really good point. I saw a list of Rodgers sigings since he returned to Celtic in 2023 and it looks like they have spent more than £50m on players and of Rodgers signings, the only first team regulars are:

Schmeichel (free)

Kuhn (loan -> £3m)

 

There are a few others that are in and out

McCowan (£1m)

Engels (£11m)
Trusty (£6m)

Valle (£1.3m loan fee)

Bernardo (Loan -> £3.5m)

Idah (£9.5m)

 

Then after that there are 10 players totaling more than £20m in transfer fees that rarely, or never, play

 

Thats at best a 40% success rate on a £50m+ outlay

Well run club, cash rich, a player trading model that works. They can afford this "success rate" and "outlay".

[Rousseau 10,946]

20 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Yes, but they are still losing money - they've just had to "invest" another £8M to see us to the end of the season. 

 

They don't appear capable of stopping the spiral. 

It's not a short-term fix. 

[RANGERRAB 3,848]

25 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Well run club, cash rich, a player trading model that works. They can afford this "success rate" and "outlay".

Rangers are of course trying to copy the player trading model. I do believe we’ve now got 2 or 3 players who are sellable assets

[Sutton_blows_goats 5,614]

53 minutes ago, lenny3k said:

Then after that there are 10 players totaling more than £20m in transfer fees that rarely, or never, play

 

The wages of these guys would be interesting.

 

Don't know many 9 million pound players on 15 grand a week.

[CammyF 8,594]

33 minutes ago, Sutton_blows_goats said:

The wages of these guys would be interesting.

 

Don't know many 9 million pound players on 15 grand a week.

Their wage bill was less than ours. 

[compo 7,327]

I would imagine a club has to be either a big club or successful club to attract companies to enter a naming rights deal or maybe playing in a bigger setup like the English premiership we these days are just another club if you want we are the new Queens Park former giants of the Scottish game I’d say we’re not to far away from that category now most of our success came in the last century so far this century we’ve won six leagues five Scottish cups and seven league cups apart from a few hiccups the rest has gone east to Parkhead past boardrooms have failed to adapt to the modern business part of football I deal the present board would walk tomorrow if they could get back their money plus interest but no one’s interested in buying a failing club it’s going to take some kind of miracle to turn this shambles round.