Match Thread [FT] St Mirren 2 - 1 Rangers (Danilo 61)

[Sutton_blows_goats 5,489]

2 minutes ago, compo said:

First thing needing sorted is the defence

Yup, a Davie Weir and Ugo Ehiogu are required

[alexscottislegend 2,378]

15 hours ago, RANGERRAB said:

The first thing I want to change is stop playing one up front in the SPL. Play Danilo and a.n.other. 
St Mirren don’t have better players but our inability to finish them off early 2nd  half cost us in the end. 

Erm...didn't St Mirren play one up front?

[Idisi 604]

46 minutes ago, alexscottislegend said:

Erm...didn't St Mirren play one up front?

But this player was playing against two defenders maximum, not three or more.

Watching the highlights, it is the same problem over and over again. One team defends with 7 or 8 players and only counter-attacks. You can lose goals quite easily against such tactics, since the counter-attackers only need a few chances to score. It is similar to how Union played and plays against better opposition, like Leverkusen, Leipzig, and Bayern.

Let me guess: teams like St. Mirren have far more problems against teams like themselves? That is, where they have to "play football"? 

 

I would play three defenders, and one 6. If you have 70+% of the ball, you do not need two 6s, and can easily use two modern style wingers. You saw what Cerny did at their goal.  3-4-3 or 3-5-2 is the way to play against such teams like yesterday. The 3 defenders guard the middle and don't attack. It is very strange that a continental trainer like Clement does not see and use this.

[RANGERRAB 3,771]

1 hour ago, compo said:

First thing needing sorted is the defence as we have little money then any money spent should be on the defence we have three full backs who cant defend and we need a couple of players to fill the centre half positionhe  may have to try some square pegs in round holes until we find some decent money to buy a decent player .

as a matter of urgency we need two CB’s who can stay fit

[RANGERRAB 3,771]

1 hour ago, alexscottislegend said:

Erm...didn't St Mirren play one up front?

They did but they’d a system to suit which didn’t leave him isolated. Too often that happens when we play one up front 

[buster. 5,262]

5 hours ago, CammyF said:

We don't need to spend money for short-term improvements, we just need a coach who can coach the players in a system that will consistently win games and improve their fitness.......

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........If I'm living in fairyland, you've got your head buried in the sand and are delusional if you believe the current incumbents (manager and board) are going to make us a force again. 

Is it Fairyland or Monopoly Money World where we can change the coach without it costing anything? 

 

As for me being delusional. I don't believe the current incumbents are going to make us a force again. It is going to take a lot longer than what we'd all like it to be. 

 

If we start the impatient 'throw money we haven't got at it' approach again and keep going deeper into the shite, then the threat becomes existential.  Did you learn nothing in 2012?

 

 

 

[CammyF 8,408]

1 hour ago, buster. said:

Is it Fairyland or Monopoly Money World where we can change the coach without it costing anything? 

 

As for me being delusional. I don't believe the current incumbents are going to make us a force again. It is going to take a lot longer than what we'd all like it to be. 

 

If we start the impatient 'throw money we haven't got at it' approach again and keep going deeper into the shite, then the threat becomes existential.  Did you learn nothing in 2012?

 

 

 

But keeping him as manager is costing us financially. You're delusional if you believe keeping him as manager is going to fix anything. We're regressing under Clement

 

Maybe there is a release clause in that new improved contract the board gave him?

 

You keep implying I've learnt nothing from 2012 when I was one of the first fans to warn where we were heading under Murray. Cloud cuckoo land stuff.

 

Said previously we need to separate what is required short-term to fix the team and mid to long-term fix for the board.

 

As @Sutton_blows_goats says, the board are only keeping Clement employed as it takes the fans focus away from them. Basically, he's their useful idiot. 

[buster. 5,262]

1 hour ago, CammyF said:

Maybe there is a release clause in that new improved contract the board gave him?

 

You keep implying I've learnt nothing from 2012 when I was one of the first fans to warn where we were heading under Murray. Cloud cuckoo land stuff.

 

As @Sutton_blows_goats says, the board are only keeping Clement employed as it takes the fans focus away from them. Basically, he's their useful idiot. 

You obviously believe that monopoly money can sort all our problems.

 

Have to laugh at the "maybe there is a release clause...." 

 

If you'd learnt from 2012, you'd be following the John Bennett austerity drive. 

 

We tried the speculate to accumulate. Or rather structured losses post 2015. There was a logic to it and the losses were financed internally. However, 9 years on, it has to stop. New financial rules and "investor fatigue" brought John Bennett to tell the fans, enough.

 

We have to consolidate financially or risk the club again.

 

John Bennett was at the sharp end. You are a message board poster who doesn't seem to want finance involved in the conversation.

 

 

 

 

[CammyF 8,408]

13 minutes ago, buster. said:

You obviously believe that monopoly money can sort all our problems.

 

Have to laugh at the "maybe there is a release clause...." 

 

If you'd learnt from 2012, you'd be following the John Bennett austerity drive. 

 

We tried the speculate to accumulate. Or rather structured losses post 2015. There was a logic to it and the losses were financed internally. However, 9 years on, it has to stop. New financial rules and "investor fatigue" brought John Bennett to tell the fans, enough.

 

We have to consolidate financially or risk the club again.

 

John Bennett was at the sharp end. You are a message board poster who doesn't seem to want finance involved in the conversation.

 

 

 

 

You have a fantastic ability to ignore what I've actually written.

 

I mentioned finance, you've just chose to ignore it (again).

 

I am just a poster on a message board, so are you, so what's your point?

 

The comment about a release clause was sarcasm. Imagine giving a failure an improved contract - was Mr Bennett involved in that fantastic decision? 

 

As for Mr Bennett, would that be the same Mr Bennett who was part of the board who got us into this cluster fuck of mess due to gross mismanagement? 

[CammyF 8,408]

Just heard that one of the subs St Mirren brought on, 17 year old Callum Penman was not long signed from Sygenta and was on-loan at Linlithgow Rose last season.

 

Nevermid, due to wage cuts, we shouldn't be expecting to beat St Mirren. 

 

Don't know whether to laugh or cry.....