Cammy Fraser

[CammyF 8,369]

This weekend marked the 40th anniversary of Cammy Fraser flicking the "V's" to the Govan Stand.

 

This led to an almost pantomime scenario between those fans seated in the Govan and Copland Road, with the Copland singing "it's only Tims in the Govan". 

 

There has been rumours of confrontations between fans outside the ground after the incident.

 

Instead of marking the end of Fraser at Rangers, he last another 3 years and some Rangers fans were angry that Souness retained Fraser and sold Bobby Russell. 

 

Russell does mention tihs in hos book and confirms that he had a bad knee injury and this was the reason he was sold.

 

Anyway, in memory and celebration of my non de plume and in the spirit of Christams 

[Rousseau 10,806]

[JohnMc 2,801]

I was in the Govan that day. I've still never seen my Dad more angry at a football match and it remains the only time I've ever booed a Rangers player. 

Fraser had been getting stick from the crowd, deservedly so as he wasn't playing well in a side that wasn't playing well. I don't know if there was a particular shout he heard or if it was a general frustration on his part that he was getting stick. We scored and he ran to the Govan and gesticulated and then all hell broke loose. That the Copland decided to back Fraser we put down to them not being able to see what he'd done. In those days the Govan was a bit more respectable, it was where the older guys went, or Dads took their sons if they wanted to shield them from aspects of football fandom. The Copland was the noisy end, younger support congregated there, along with the East Enclosure it was where the singing came from, it was a bit more energy and was exactly where 'sons' wanted to be. So to get the entire Govan stand booing a Rangers player took some doing, Fraser should have been substituted and banned by the club, he crossed a line and should have been punished. 

As Cammy mentions I saw scuffles outside after the game, no more than pushing and shoving, as some of our less intelligent support thought chanting 'there's only Tims in the Govan' as they walked past exiting Govanites was a good idea. 

 

There's a debate over whether it's ever fair for players to give it back to fans. In the end they're being paid, the fans aren't. Professionalism should trump a perhaps natural annoyance and frustration that a player might feel. 

I couldn't have told you this was the anniversary of it. It feels every second of 40 years ago though. 

[onevision 1,587]

All was more or less forgotten about when he scored against THAT LOT quite soon afterwards.

[CammyF 8,369]

46 minutes ago, onevision said:

All was more or less forgotten about when he scored against THAT LOT quite soon afterwards.

Twice IIRC in a 4-4 draw at Ibrox. I think that was early March and I went to see The Cramps at Barrowland straight after the game.

 

Sure he also missed a penalty against Celtic at Parkhead in a 1-1 draw. Davie Cooper scoring a late equaliser for us. 

 

I remember signing him and Iain Ferguson from Dundee and being quite excited about the double signing.

 

I met Cammy Fraser in early 90s when he was part of a crew renovating my work building and he was more than happy to talk about his time at Rangers.

 

This was around the time when fanzines exploded and I was penning an article that I hoped would be published in No1 Fanzine (about the referee Willie Young) and was struggling for a name to write under, so chose Cammy Frasers Moustache.

Edited Monday at 10:49 by CammyF

[CammyF 8,369]

1 hour ago, JohnMc said:

I was in the Govan that day. I've still never seen my Dad more angry at a football match and it remains the only time I've ever booed a Rangers player. 

Fraser had been getting stick from the crowd, deservedly so as he wasn't playing well in a side that wasn't playing well. I don't know if there was a particular shout he heard or if it was a general frustration on his part that he was getting stick. We scored and he ran to the Govan and gesticulated and then all hell broke loose. That the Copland decided to back Fraser we put down to them not being able to see what he'd done. In those days the Govan was a bit more respectable, it was where the older guys went, or Dads took their sons if they wanted to shield them from aspects of football fandom. The Copland was the noisy end, younger support congregated there, along with the East Enclosure it was where the singing came from, it was a bit more energy and was exactly where 'sons' wanted to be. So to get the entire Govan stand booing a Rangers player took some doing, Fraser should have been substituted and banned by the club, he crossed a line and should have been punished. 

As Cammy mentions I saw scuffles outside after the game, no more than pushing and shoving, as some of our less intelligent support thought chanting 'there's only Tims in the Govan' as they walked past exiting Govanites was a good idea. 

 

There's a debate over whether it's ever fair for players to give it back to fans. In the end they're being paid, the fans aren't. Professionalism should trump a perhaps natural annoyance and frustration that a player might feel. 

I couldn't have told you this was the anniversary of it. It feels every second of 40 years ago though. 

I was in the East Enclosure so as "neutral" in the whole event and repercussions  😀

 

I only know it was 40 years as Follow Follow posted it over the weekend, but you are correct, it sure feels like a long time ago. 

[ranger_syntax 4,422]

Very un-Struthian.

[Scott7 6,149]

That dire event apart, CF was a decent enough player. Handy lad to have around for your midfield selection but unlikely to be first pick.