Match Thread [FT] Nice 1 - 4 Rangers (Cerny 35'; Diomande 38'; Igamane 45+3', 54')

[buster. 5,208]

42 minutes ago, compo said:

This was our clubs first European tie pity we don’t have a Shearer or a Caldow in defence or Murray and Baird up front I’d even have a seven past Niven in goal rather than shaky Butland .

Nice put us out, despite Shearer and Caldow.

 

Following season our second European opponents were also French. This time, we won the tie against St.Etienne.

 

Edited 16 hours ago by buster.

[compo 7,062]

4 minutes ago, buster. said:

Nice put us out, despite Shearer and Caldow.

 

Following season our second European opposition were also French. This time, we won the tie against St.Etienne.

That may be so but we could go out and beat most teams a d win leagues and cups something the present lot can’t even get near to doing 

[Frankie 8,582]

16 minutes ago, Sutton_blows_goats said:

Does anyone know if we've had a rebuild? Is this a new team? Manager hasn't mentioned it.

I understand the rebuild point he is making but 4 months into that including a full pre-season and 6 weeks of international break training time should be yielding more obvious improvement than we're seeing. There are too many flaws for fans to retain confidence in the manager.

 

There are obvious reasons for our continued poor/inconsistent form. Injuries remain a huge problem that he hasn't solved along with the same systemic issues as last season (not taking chances and conceding too easily). He's had 12 months to address these without success. Add in our utterly woeful set-pieces and generic lack of basic ability at times: e.g. passing and shooting then it's hard to defend any the coaching team.

 

All things considered, Clement can ask for more time and I think that's fair to a degree. However, demonstrable progress has to be delivered now. Not next week, not next month but immediately. Can he recover? I doubt it but the festive period is the ideal time to do it as there is now a busy run of games that should allow the manager and players to foster some sort of understanding.

[Scott7 6,024]

8 minutes ago, buster. said:

Nice put us out, despite Shearer and Caldow.

 

See above for excuses.

 

8 minutes ago, buster. said:

This time, we won the tie against St.Etienne.

We also won a bike.

The team was the same as beaten by Nice just shifted about a bit and Kitchenbrand in for Logie.

[compo 7,062]

In the early years of European competition there were plenty of dodgy referees in one Evan a Scottish official who got banned for accepting hospitality of the host team 

[buster. 5,208]

1 minute ago, Frankie said:

I understand the rebuild point he is making but 4 months into that including a full pre-season and 6 weeks of international break training time should be yielding more obvious improvement than we're seeing. There are too many flaws for fans to retain confidence in manager.

 

There are obvious reasons for our continued poor/inconsistent form. Injuries remain a huge problem that he hasn't solved along with the same systemic issues as last season (not taking chances and conceding too easily). He's had 12 months to address these without success. Add in our utterly woeful set-pieces and generic lack of basic ability at times: e.g. passing and shooting then it's hard to defend any the coaching team.

 

All things considered, Clement can ask for more time and I think that's fair to a degree. However, demonstrable progress has to be delivered now. Not next week, not next month but immediately. Can he recover? I doubt it but the festive period is the ideal time to do it as there is now a busy run of games that should allow the manager and players to foster some sort of understanding.

In a 'normal' set of circumstances surrounding the club, Clement would be on the brink.

 

He might be anyway, but given what the board said about patience, circumstances and a look at the accounts. I think we need to try and ride out the storm.

 

I think we'll finish second with or without Clement. So far, we've done ok in Europe and I think we'll do better in the League Cup Final than the scudding that most are talking about.

 

A new manager may bring a bounce but he won't be able to bring in much quality players and we'll still be behind Celtic.

 

To address the challenge of becoming real rivals to Celtic again for more than an occasional season, it is about laying sustainable foundations.

[buster. 5,208]

12 minutes ago, Scott7 said:

See above for excuses.

 

We also won a bike.

The team was the same as beaten by Nice just shifted about a bit and Kitchenbrand in for Logie.

Was PLG not given the bike and told to get on it?

 

Edited 16 hours ago by buster.

[buster. 5,208]

28 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

We've only knocked down the ruins and cleared the rubble. 

 

We've still to build something. 

We are still tripping over the rubble and the dust doesn't allow us to see a way out.

[Rousseau 10,673]

Lampard has been appointed Coventry manager so we're free of that scenario for the time being.

[Rousseau 10,673]

Just now, buster. said:

We are still tripping over the rubble and the dust doesn't allow us to see a way out.

There's a lot still to clear, I agree.