ChelseaBoy 2,439 Posted Tuesday at 12:03 Share Posted Tuesday at 12:03 1 hour ago, JohnMc said: Signing a young(ish) player who has played 80 matches in Danish, or Finnish or even Scottish football strikes me as a better gamble than someone in Morocco or America. Raskin, Diomande, Jefte, Souttar and Barron have all settled and assimilated into the team far more quickly than Cifuentes, Igamane or James Sands. I think we also miss a trick picking up inexperienced players being released by big English sides. The fact you're not deemed good enough to get into the Man City or Liverpool first team squad is hardly a damning statement on your chance of being a success in the Scottish league. I know nothing about Finlay Curtis other than his name is appearing more and more frequently in B team reports. An attacking midfielder is something we've not had since Arfield left, at 18 he should be around the squad pushing for the bench. Chances of that happening seem remote unfortunately. A series of managers, including from countries where playing youngsters is expected, have overlooked our youths, read into that what you will. True, look at Cole Palmer! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 7,979 Posted Tuesday at 12:25 Share Posted Tuesday at 12:25 2 hours ago, buster. said: It would take time to turn the club around into a sustainable business. It will be DIFFICULT. Relatively heavy loss making is in with the bricks. Along with the strategic acumen of a badly run bowling club. Look at the boardroom Look at the accounts Look at the football department Look at the playing squad #omnishambles Expect pain, hope that it isn't acute or long term. I have looked at the accounts. I've watched as we sold players for millions. I've watched as fans have bought season tickets and European Tickets for top dollar. I've watched as the fans have ploughed money into the club in various other avenues. As long as the club continues to make rhe wrong appointments (or no appointments in this boards case) we'll never move forward. We generate money, but we spend it unwisely (NEH, incorrect appointments, Copland debacle, court cases etc). Until the bowling club committee hand control to real football business people, we'll continue to p1ss what little money we have up a wall and continue to regress. The board want you to believe its difficult to turn around, it isnt, it's a matter of employing the correct people. Even as badly run as we are, we should be dominating all teams outwith Celtic - that's down to recruitment and coaching, which are other areas we sadly lack in. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 5,144 Posted Tuesday at 13:22 Share Posted Tuesday at 13:22 37 minutes ago, CammyF said: The board want you to believe its difficult to turn around, it isnt, it's a matter of employing the correct people. You MIGHT get lucky and appoint the right people for a change. But turning this around will be painful and it will take time unless we are bringing in Harry Potter and his magic wand. Do you really think that this isn't difficult? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 7,979 Posted Tuesday at 13:29 Share Posted Tuesday at 13:29 1 minute ago, buster. said: You MIGHT get lucky and appoint the right people for a change. But turning this around will be painful and it will take time unless we are bringing in Harry Potter and his magic wand. Do you really think that this isn't difficult? No, it's not difficult. It's simple. Hire the correct people both on and off the pitch. Get the players fit, strong and focused. Get them coached properly. Beat the "rest" on a regular basis and the OF games will take care of themselves. That surely isn't that difficult? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 5,144 Posted Tuesday at 13:37 Share Posted Tuesday at 13:37 5 minutes ago, CammyF said: No, it's not difficult. It's simple. Hire the correct people both on and off the pitch. Get the players fit, strong and focused. Get them coached properly. Beat the "rest" on a regular basis and the OF games will take care of themselves. That surely isn't that difficult? Suddenly happen upon a player trading model, become sustainable and win trophies. Easy !!! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 7,979 Posted Tuesday at 14:01 Share Posted Tuesday at 14:01 23 minutes ago, buster. said: Suddenly happen upon a player trading model, become sustainable and win trophies. Easy !!! It is - look across the city. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 5,144 Posted Tuesday at 14:56 Share Posted Tuesday at 14:56 (edited) 1 hour ago, CammyF said: It is - look across the city. We can only dream of a solid financial base, sensible medium to long term strategy and firm, unwavering leadership. 5 years of McCann, 60,000 capacity Stadium and 20 years of Lawwell. The trading model has taken them time to get right and they made a lot of mistakes en route. We have always wanted to take short cuts. Sometimes it worked for a spell but the general direction of travel was towards where we currently are. Time to do things properly and given finances, loss-making culture, expectations/timescales, it will be much more than challenging. Edited Tuesday at 15:18 by buster. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 7,979 Posted Tuesday at 15:56 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:56 (edited) 1 hour ago, buster. said: We can only dream of a solid financial base, sensible medium to long term strategy and firm, unwavering leadership. 5 years of McCann, 60,000 capacity Stadium and 20 years of Lawwell. The trading model has taken them time to get right and they made a lot of mistakes en route. We have always wanted to take short cuts. Sometimes it worked for a spell but the general direction of travel was towards where we currently are. Time to do things properly and given finances, loss-making culture, expectations/timescales, it will be much more than challenging. But we don't have to dream. We have to stop listening to the narrative that we can't challenge as we're going through rebuilding, restructuring, cost cutting, whatever you want to call it. It's up to the board to get their collective fingers out their collective arses and starting running this club correctly. It's up to us fans to put whatever pressure we can on them to do so, starting at the AGM. I'd also say it's time for all ego's to be parked (apologies for the pun) and get everyone (DK included) around the table and get OUR club sorted. Edited Tuesday at 15:57 by CammyF 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,614 Posted Tuesday at 16:26 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:26 2 hours ago, CammyF said: No, it's not difficult. It's simple. Hire the correct people both on and off the pitch. Get the players fit, strong and focused. Get them coached properly. Beat the "rest" on a regular basis and the OF games will take care of themselves. That surely isn't that difficult? You're right. It shouldn't be that difficult to get it right off the pitch. We're not a difficult business model to understand. Much of our income is known to an extent at the start of the season and likewise the costs. We need someone who is mentally strong, and perhaps not from the West of Scotland. It really shouldn't be difficult to get a capable chairman and CEO. They are out there. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,614 Posted Tuesday at 16:29 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:29 31 minutes ago, CammyF said: I'd also say it's time for all ego's to be parked (apologies for the pun) and get everyone (DK included) around the table and get OUR club sorted. If we're going to move on then we need to ensure King isn't involved. That's just going to set us back. He did great for us, but we can't go back to 2015. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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