Match Thread [FT] Rangers 1 (Dessers 6') - 0 Hearts

[compo 7,030]

28 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

Aye, but when I do it you call it nonsense!

 

It's a bit selective. (The financial numbers are very misleading, too.)

 

If we expand it, we can see why Beale deserved to be sacked. I was quite content going into that season with a 4-diamond-2, but the ppg drop off was quite severe. Clement then brought about an incredible turnaround, then we get a drop off this season. 

 

Gerrard's last season saw a bad drop off, too.   

 

GvB was quite consistent, I'd say - but the football was dreadful. 

 

Do you know what the average is over these 7 seasons? 2.25 ppg.

 

Season	Manager	MP	Pts	PPG	Change
18/19	Gerrard	38	78	2.05	-
19/20	Gerrard	29	67	2.31	0.26
20/21	Gerrard	38	102	2.68	0.37
21/22	Gerrard	12	27	2.25	-0.43
	GvB	25	59	2.36	0.11
22/23	GvB	15	33	2.20	-0.16
	Beale	23	59	2.57	0.37
23/24	Beale	7	12	1.71	-0.85
	Clement	30	70	2.33	0.62
24/25	Clement	11	22	2.00	-0.33

Why has Gerrard only got 29 games in 19/20season 

[Rousseau 10,600]

Just now, compo said:

Why has Gerrard only got 29 games in 19/20season 

Covid.

[CammyF 8,079]

1 hour ago, Rousseau said:

Aye, but when I do it you call it nonsense!

 

It's a bit selective. (The financial numbers are very misleading, too.)

 

If we expand it, we can see why Beale deserved to be sacked. I was quite content going into that season with a 4-diamond-2, but the ppg drop off was quite severe. Clement then brought about an incredible turnaround, then we get a drop off this season. 

 

Gerrard's last season saw a bad drop off, too.   

 

GvB was quite consistent, I'd say - but the football was dreadful. 

 

Do you know what the average is over these 7 seasons? 2.25 ppg.

 

Season	Manager	MP	Pts	PPG	Change
18/19	Gerrard	38	78	2.05	-
19/20	Gerrard	29	67	2.31	0.26
20/21	Gerrard	38	102	2.68	0.37
21/22	Gerrard	12	27	2.25	-0.43
	GvB	25	59	2.36	0.11
22/23	GvB	15	33	2.20	-0.16
	Beale	23	59	2.57	0.37
23/24	Beale	7	12	1.71	-0.85
	Clement	30	70	2.33	0.62
24/25	Clement	11	22	2.00	-0.33

Beale did deserved to be sacked, no doubting. However, going by that logic, so does Clement. Clement also has a lower goals per game and lower goal aggregate (has a better goals against)

 

It's hard to argue that the football we are witnessing under Clement (after the "bounce") is as bad as, if not worse than anything we witnessed under Beale. Results and league position show this quite clearly.

 

As for Beales "mess", Clement is still relying on players Beale (or his predecessors) signed. In fact we'd be in a far worse league position if you removed the winning goals scored this season by Dessers and Lawrence. 

 

Our injuries aren't improving and neither has our fitness which is quite the achievement considering.

 

Financials whilst may be misleading do show Clement has been backed as much as Beale was in the transfer market.

 

The case for sticking with Clement unravels more and more each week.

 

 

[Scott7 6,002]

3 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Clement (after the "bounce")

It was a pretty good bounce - one trophy, unlucky in another cup competition and Rangers would have won the league but for fixture postponements.

[Gonzo79 15,292]

12 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Beale did deserved to be sacked, no doubting. However, going by that logic, so does Clement.

What logic?  Just PPG or will the board consider GPG too?  

 

The board will take more than stats into account when making big decisions.  As has been discussed, Clement took on a worse situation than Beale did, so will likely get more leeway. 

Edited November 13 by Gonzo79

[RANGERRAB 3,653]

18 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Beale did deserved to be sacked, no doubting. However, going by that logic, so does Clement. Clement also has a lower goals per game and lower goal aggregate (has a better goals against)

 

It's hard to argue that the football we are witnessing under Clement (after the "bounce") is as bad as, if not worse than anything we witnessed under Beale. Results and league position show this quite clearly.

 

As for Beales "mess", Clement is still relying on players Beale (or his predecessors) signed. In fact we'd be in a far worse league position if you removed the winning goals scored this season by Dessers and Lawrence. 

 

Our injuries aren't improving and neither has our fitness which is quite the achievement considering.

 

Financials whilst may be misleading do show Clement has been backed as much as Beale was in the transfer market.

 

The case for sticking with Clement unravels more and more each week.

 

 

So who’d replace Clement?

[lenny3k 660]

7 minutes ago, RANGERRAB said:

So who’d replace Clement?

I think the problem is, what right minded talented, or good quality manager, would want to manage Rangers at the moment

[Gonzo79 15,292]

23 minutes ago, CammyF said:

In fact we'd be in a far worse league position if you removed the winning goals scored this season by Dessers and Lawrence. 

[CammyF 8,079]

1 minute ago, Gonzo79 said:

Right back at you 

 

Who scored our goals in 1-0 victories? Dessers and Lawrence so if they hadn't we'd be much worse off. 

[CammyF 8,079]

9 minutes ago, RANGERRAB said:

So who’d replace Clement?

Not my decision - but I wouldn't trust the current board given their recent record. Just another reason why we need a full-time Chairman and CEO urgently. 

 

But it appears the majority of fans are still happy to stumble along with a bowling club committee running the club and a manager who is sitting 3rd in the league. Whilst deflecting the blame onto previous incumbents.

 

Sometimes we get what we deserve.