CammyF 8,035 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 11 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said: I observed an admitted former bondage trouser wearer telling me to believe someone partly on the basis that they are a Commander of the Order of the British Empire, which was fun. Punk's not dead. 🤪 Quite untrue, as you'll be well aware. What i asked was who should I believe, you (a faceless punter on a messageboard) or Souness given it was an account of his career. You still have answered that BTW, not that I'm expecting an answer. Edited 4 hours ago by CammyF 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 5,167 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 52 minutes ago, Scott7 said: Thanks CF. From what GS says, Lampard seems better suited to Assistant Director of Football (Recruitment) Better off with Santiago, the Alchemist. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 8,035 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 5 hours ago, Rousseau said: I still laugh at those that call Gerrard a snake for leaving. It's just a bruised ego, for me. They believe it is mark of their staunchness, a bit like those who still sing about dead terrorists. Would they call Gerrard a snake to his face? Off course they wouldn't. Edited 4 hours ago by CammyF 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMc 2,738 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago A proper appraisal of Sir David Murray's tenure of Rangers is a thread in its own right, and probably one that stretches for a lot of pages. On Souness, whatever views people hold of his departure, and it was badly handled by all concerned with the exception of Murray, ironically, he must be seen as one of the most important figures in the club's history. The magnitude of his influence on Rangers, and all of Scottish football, is almost difficult to comprehend today. The ripples from some of the boulders he threw are still being felt today I'd argue. There remains much to admire about Souness, his charity work is exceptional, he's always positive about Rangers, when it's not always fashionable to be so, his punditry can be entertaining too. His insights into the appointment of Clement are interesting. His argument for Lampard isn't without merit and it's interesting to hear his views on how the current manager is doing. Souness has knowledge and experience that none of us possess, but that alone doesn't mean he's always right. I've always felt Gordon Smith is one of those ex-players who people constantly over-estimate his ability simply because he's half way articulate. A bit like Pat Nevin, broadcasters swoon over him because he's capable of throwing in a few big words, and assume this must equal intelligence and insight. In actual fact Smith (and Nevin) have consistently shown themselves to make poor decisions, lack insight and struggle when given real power. That said he can be entertaining and enjoyable to listen to some of his stories. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 8,035 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 7 minutes ago, JohnMc said: A proper appraisal of Sir David Murray's tenure of Rangers is a thread in its own right, and probably one that stretches for a lot of pages. On Souness, whatever views people hold of his departure, and it was badly handled by all concerned with the exception of Murray, ironically, he must be seen as one of the most important figures in the club's history. The magnitude of his influence on Rangers, and all of Scottish football, is almost difficult to comprehend today. The ripples from some of the boulders he threw are still being felt today I'd argue. There remains much to admire about Souness, his charity work is exceptional, he's always positive about Rangers, when it's not always fashionable to be so, his punditry can be entertaining too. His insights into the appointment of Clement are interesting. His argument for Lampard isn't without merit and it's interesting to hear his views on how the current manager is doing. Souness has knowledge and experience that none of us possess, but that alone doesn't mean he's always right. I've always felt Gordon Smith is one of those ex-players who people constantly over-estimate his ability simply because he's half way articulate. A bit like Pat Nevin, broadcasters swoon over him because he's capable of throwing in a few big words, and assume this must equal intelligence and insight. In actual fact Smith (and Nevin) have consistently shown themselves to make poor decisions, lack insight and struggle when given real power. That said he can be entertaining and enjoyable to listen to some of his stories. Smith told 2 funny stories. One about Jimmy Bell / Kyle Lafferty and one about Duncan Ferguson / Jim McLean. Neither for on here! I can remember Smith playing for us and thought he was a very good player and struck up a lethal partnership with DJ. This helped us win a few trophies. He also had decent spells at Man City and Brighton. I liked him as a player when he played for us, but some of posters older than me will be better placed to say. As for his commentary career, I don't mind him. He got a few things wrong yesterday regarding events but overall he was very good and spoke very well. Souness is Souness - a world class player, part of a legendry Liverpool team, rejuvenated Rangers (we hadn't won the league for 9 seasons). Is / was he perfect, off course not, but none of us are. He will remain one of my Rangers hero's up there with Walter Smith, Jock Wallace, John Greig, Davie Cooper, Super Ally, Richard Gough et al. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo 7,014 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, CammyF said: Smith told 2 funny stories. One about Jimmy Bell / Kyle Lafferty and one about Duncan Ferguson / Jim McLean. Neither for on here! I can remember Smith playing for us and thought he was a very good player and struck up a lethal partnership with DJ. This helped us win a few trophies. He also had decent spells at Man City and Brighton. I liked him as a player when he played for us, but some of posters older than me will be better placed to say. As for his commentary career, I don't mind him. He got a few things wrong yesterday regarding events but overall he was very good and spoke very well. Souness is Souness - a world class player, part of a legendry Liverpool team, rejuvenated Rangers (we hadn't won the league for 9 seasons). Is / was he perfect, off course not, but none of us are. He will remain one of my Rangers hero's up there with Walter Smith, Jock Wallace, John Greig, Davie Cooper, Super Ally, Richard Gough et al. I wouldn't say Souness was a world class player a good player yes a hard player yes but world class it's a no from me on that one good lord no never world class . 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 15,283 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 52 minutes ago, CammyF said: Would they call Gerrard a snake to his face? Off course they wouldn't. Is this your go to argument for anyone who criticises a former manager? 🤣 And it's of course. 'Off course' would mean it's not longer on the course. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 8,035 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Gonzo79 said: Is this your go to argument for anyone who criticises a former manager? 🤣 And it's of course. 'Off course' would mean it's not longer on the course. Referring to anyone as a snake isn't criticism, it's a personal slur. Thought the GersNet English professor would have known that. Point stands, they wouldn't dare call him a snake to his face. Implying that Souness is a liar may be criticism but also borders on a slur. Again, you wouldn't dare call him out to his face. Much easier and safer as a faceless poster on the Internet. You must be bored if you find any fun / pleasure search a select few posters post simply to pick out and highlight an of instead of an off. If you think it's being helpful, it isn't. If you truly want to be helpful, please can you post the definition of an Internet troll? Edited 2 hours ago by CammyF 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7 5,978 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Lampard on Coventry City’s short list, apparently. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 8,035 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Scott7 said: Lampard on Coventry City’s short list, apparently. Would be a good job for him 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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