CammyF 8,373 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 38 minutes ago, ranger_syntax said: Time to move on. perma-injured roberto carlos-esque ridvan yilmaz issues come-and-get-me plea to turks trabzonspor He'd be lucky to get a game for Bo'ness Athletic. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 8,373 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 Very good / honest podcast from 4 Lads Had A Dream - well worth a listen and hard to disagree with anything they say. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutton_blows_goats 5,457 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 13 minutes ago, CammyF said: So in summary our recruitment is at fault? Yes, and this includes under the panacea Gerrard. Its been all wrong for years. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutton_blows_goats 5,457 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 32 minutes ago, Graeme Ro55 said: Shankland only has one goal so far this season. Its not about the goals. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 8,373 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 1 minute ago, Sutton_blows_goats said: Yes, and this includes under the panacea Gerrard. Its been all wrong for years. I thought we were getting somewhere under Gerrard and early Gio. Patterson, Aribo, Bassey and Kamara are 4 great examples of us getting it 100% right. There are obviously many others we got wrong, but the 4 mentioned above raised circa £40M-£50M for very minimal outlay. However, outwith those 4 there are very limited examples of success. Clement has signed 11 players and only 6 of those signings started Sunday's game. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 8,373 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 4 minutes ago, Sutton_blows_goats said: Its not about the goals. But Shankland loses the ball MORE than Dessers. So if its not all about goals or retaining possession, why is Shankland a better option than Dessers? Simply lower wages and low transfer fee? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutton_blows_goats 5,457 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 Just now, CammyF said: Patterson, Aribo, Bassey and Kamara are 4 great examples of us getting it 100% right. Sakala was also a win. A guy we got for free, paid a small sign on, paid around half of what we were paying Lundstram and then sold for 4million after 2 years. We need to do more of the small wins like Sakala, the big wins will take care of themselves. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutton_blows_goats 5,457 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 Just now, CammyF said: But Shankland loses the ball MORE than Dessers. So if its not all about goals or retaining possession, why is Shankland a better option than Dessers? Simply lower wages and low transfer fee? I've not seen any stats possession so I wont comment on them. I'll just comment on the eye test from what I saw from him last season. I have also seen him play as a #10 which is remarkable for a guy that stats say cant retain possession. In the extreme case that all he offers is lower wages and low fee then yes he is still a better option than Dessers. RE: stats. I'm not entirely sure Shankland is that motivated to play for Hearts this season. An issue I'm sure we all all more than familiar with, from our own team last few seasons. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 8,373 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 4 minutes ago, Sutton_blows_goats said: Sakala was also a win. A guy we got for free, paid a small sign on, paid around half of what we were paying Lundstram and then sold for 4million after 2 years. We need to do more of the small wins like Sakala, the big wins will take care of themselves. Sakala was a win 100% agree. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 8,373 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 Just now, Sutton_blows_goats said: I've not seen any stats possession so I wont comment on them. I'll just comment on the eye test from what I saw from him last season. I have also seen him play as a #10 which is remarkable for a guy that stats say cant retain possession. In the extreme case that all he offers is lower wages and low fee then yes he is still a better option than Dessers. RE: stats. I'm not entirely sure Shankland is that motivated to play for Hearts this season. An issue I'm sure we all all more than familiar with, from our own team last few seasons. I'll try and dig the stats out, but Shankland was the player who lost possession the most in the SPL last season (whilst being top scorer a d player of the year). I posted a few weeks ago Shankland isn't happy with / at Hearts and it was noticeable that he wasn't being selected earlier in the season. I said last season, neither Dessers or Shankland are what we require, neither good enough I my opinion. Dessers is what we have so it's up to the manager to create a system that gets the best our of him and the rest of the squad. His current system clearly isn't working and hasn't been since March. He changed something in March that resulted in our form falling off a cliff and he's been unable or unwilling to change it back. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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