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[Scott7 5,997]

Just now, alexscottislegend said:

Here's a thought? Would you welcome back Gerrard? 

No. He achieved 55 which earns him a place in the Ibrox Pantheon. Then he mismanaged the start of the following season and buzzed off to the Villa.

[Gonzo79 15,292]

7 minutes ago, alexscottislegend said:

give me some good news someone! I hear that Tav could be Turkey-bound;

I mean, you've sort of answered your own request there.  🙂

[CammyF 8,078]

17 minutes ago, Scott7 said:

No. He achieved 55 which earns him a place in the Ibrox Pantheon. Then he mismanaged the start of the following season and buzzed off to the Villa.

I think that's a bit unfair. 

 

If you watch the interview with a champagne-soaked Gerrard with Emma Dodds after we collected the SPL trophy,  Gerrard showed a determination to drive the team even further and spoke about the "promises" he'd received from the board. 

 

We missed out on CL qualifiers against a Malmo team we should have beaten. However domestically we were top of the league and had defeated Celtic 1-0 at Ibrox with a Covid ravaged team. 

 

The team that Gio took to the EL Final was basically Gerrards team (still a brilliant achievement by Gio). 

 

As for taking him back? I wouldn't but can understand why some would. It could turn out as well as Walter taking over from PLG, who knows (at least we might beat Celtic).

[yuddie 1,693]

Said it before and I'll say it again, it's clear Clement has modern coaching ideas and his setup in principle is sound.

 

You can ask the players if they're on the same page though because I can guarantee the manager didn't want them to ease off and retreat after 10 minutes.

 

There could be communication issues of course but I think there was some stuff that was encouraging on Sunday.

 

It can take a good wee while for teams to implement a managers idea - it took Arteta and Klopp a few seasons and a few 100m to do so.

 

Like others have said, I think sticking with him would be wise and it could be painful this season before we gel - hopefully in time for the new year! If not develop and grow this season and see where we are at the end of it.

 

The nights darkest before the dawn or something cheesy like that.

[buster. 5,183]

1 hour ago, CammyF said:

Agreed, but the "status quo" isn't an option unless we are willing to accept finishing 2nd (at best) for the foreseeable future.

 

One or two more defeats (domestically) this month and attendances will fall off a cliff (not a major financial impact as 43,000 tickets have been paid in advance) but not good optically.

 

All you state in your 2nd sentence above, was true pre Holmes / Souness.

 

Football has changed significantly since those days, but the challenge is for the board to employ the correct people to move us forward both off and on the pitch. Their record in doing so thus far, doesn't give much confidence. 

Back in '86, we were a sleeping giant. Now we are a badly run, financial basket case with a support who have next to no patience.

 

Good luck trying to get the calibre of leadership that we require to directly compete with a club who are miles ahead of us, when money and patience are scarce.

 

A downsizing rebuild.

Yet another outside bet.

 

This has been coming. I was accused of being too pessimistic when I talked about it over the years. 

 

Restructured European leagues is our best bet to become relevant again. But it won't be in the short term.

 

 

Edited September 10 by buster.

[CammyF 8,078]

34 minutes ago, buster. said:

Back in '86, we were a sleeping giant. Now we are a badly run, financial basket case with a support who have next to no patience.

 

Good luck trying to get the calibre of leadership that we require to directly compete with a club who are miles ahead of us, when money and patience are scarce.

 

A downsizing rebuild.

Yet another outside bet.

 

This has been coming. I was accused of being too pessimistic when I talked about it over the years. 

 

Restructured European leagues is our best bet to become relevant again. But it won't be in the short term.

 

 

Again, I agree but at the moment, we are a sleeping giant, if we were run correctly, we'd be challenging. 

 

Currently we have a board who can't even get the basic decisions right and are conspicuous by their absence at a time when we require strong, visible and direct leadership.

 

Their reluctance (or negligence) to appoint footballing people to run the footballing department shows how far out of their depth they are. 

 

As a fanbase we are now scared of the thought of outside investment never mind a full blown takeover so we'll be stuck with this bungling board. 

 

Depressing. 

[ranger_syntax 4,314]

59 minutes ago, buster. said:

Restructured European leagues is our best bet to become relevant again.

Nope.

 

Restructured European leagues are designed to contain clubs at all levels.

[RANGERRAB 3,653]

37 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Again, I agree but at the moment, we are a sleeping giant, if we were run correctly, we'd be challenging. 

 

Currently we have a board who can't even get the basic decisions right and are conspicuous by their absence at a time when we require strong, visible and direct leadership.

 

Their reluctance (or negligence) to appoint footballing people to run the footballing department shows how far out of their depth they are. 

 

As a fanbase we are now scared of the thought of outside investment never mind a full blown takeover so we'll be stuck with this bungling board. 

 

Depressing. 

What footballing people should they appoint to run the footballing dept? We’ve had two DoF’s the second of whom caused chaos. I do actually think we’ve got the football dept ok now with Pc & Kloppen

 

Our supporters need to decide if they wish to maintain the status quo & finish second or worse most of the time or accept outside investment to allow us to compete better. And I’m not suggesting foreign investment. There are people here who’d invest but they’d want influence at board level

Edited September 10 by RANGERRAB

[CammyF 8,078]

1 minute ago, RANGERRAB said:

What footballing people should they appoint to run the footballing dept? We’ve had two DoF’s the second of whom caused chaos. I do actually think we’ve got the football dept ok now with Pc & Kloppen

 

Our supporters need to decide if they wish to maintain the status quo & finish second or worse most of the time or accept outside investment to allow us to compete better. And I’m not suggesting foreign investment. There are people here who’d invest but they’d want influence at board level

A footballing CEO or even a footballing Chairman. 

 

Your 2nd part is 100% correct. It's shit or get off the pan time for the club and fanbase. 

[onevision 1,568]

2 hours ago, Gonzo79 said:

The football landscape, in Scotland and in Europe, has changed significantly in the last forty years, so much so that I'm not sure comparisons are worthwhile.

 

At least our players put up a fight against Celtc back then though.  Recent trips to the Piggery look like a waste of time - we'd be as well not turning up.

As we would not be there to win the toss of the coin, they would take centre and score meaning we'd only lose 1-0.

Sounds like a plan.