compo 7,030 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Do you think the players are buying into the manager's ideas or do you think there's some kind of dressing room revolt in the works . 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoohBear 1,148 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 I don't think there is any revolt going on (aside from our style of football), however, if there are any players kicking up a fuss then get rid. I'm tired of wanks. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 15,292 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 It's hard to tell - every aspect of the club seems to be dripping with despondency. Hopefully some of the new signings can lighten the mood but I won't hold my breath. I'm expecting things to get worse in the weeks ahead. There are definite concerns about our style of play but we'll just need to grin and bear it for the next few months. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutton_blows_goats 5,327 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 I expect us to get going eventually, but we will likely be too far behind for it to make a difference for this season. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger_syntax 4,316 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Who would lead a revolt? Why would there even be one? Mercenaries don't care. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil's advocaat 1,541 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 I think dressing room revolts are the stuff of myth and conspiracy nuts. Agree with SBG, we will get there, but its going to be a longer road than some fans will have the stomach for. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERRAB 3,653 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Between now & the end of next month is crucial for PC. He badly needs results at home & in Europe. If he doesn’t get results then people will rightly start to ask questions 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gribz 850 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 It could also be some of the players arent capable of buying into Clement's methods for one reason or another. Its hard to teach an old dog new tricks for the old guard and then you could be creating a salad bowl instead of a good blend. There has been a good number coming in the door during the summer and we have had a horrendous injury list again so until that eases and the new players are settled we may not see much developing on the pitch for a while. As such I am still fully behind Big Phil, I think he has been unlucky despite some baffling decisions, however this could be down to trust - he see's things day in day out that we dont. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 8,079 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 (edited) Speaking with an old pal yesterday and they suggested we are back to the pre-Souness days both on and off the pitch. Initially I thought that this was a little overreaction but on reflection they may have a point. Just like in those bleak days we are HOPING for any improvement but with no real reason to believe itll happen and certainly no expectation that it will. Edited September 10 by CammyF 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 5,185 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 52 minutes ago, CammyF said: Speaking with an old pal yesterday and they suggested we are back to the pre-Souness days both on and off the pitch. Initially I thought that this was a little overreaction but on reflection they may have a point. Just like in those bleak days we are HOPING for any improvement but with no real reason to believe itll happen and certainly no expectation that it will. I'd say that the current situation is very different to pre-Souness in various important aspects. The league is a lot lesss competitive and we find ourselves moored in a very predictable second place. A long way behind the team above and over a season, a long way in front of the provinicial pack. We have went decades spending more money than we generate. We have become used to spending our way (often badly) out of problems. Even after 2012, when things caught up on us. We dressed up the continual overspend as a strategic medium term measure that would be financed and get us back to the top of Scottish football, 'structured losses'. Fine, only we can't shake the addiction. John Bennett rightly recognises the need to change. But it seems to me that he hasn't got the cojones to face up to a support who generally don't really get the extent to which things need to change and the time it may take. Fergus McCann was the guy who turned the other side of the city around and later, they happened upon Peter Lawwell, who took charge of building on those new financial foundations. Two strong characters, who most of the Celtic support didn't/don't care for because the short-term medicine wasn't what they wanted. But they didn't flinch or seem to care about their popularity, headlines and social media 'feedback'. We don't have that type of leadership. We don't have the money to embark on our usual M.O. path to solve problems FFP further complicates matters In a season or two, European football post August will not be a given. The normal timescales of cyclical success in Scottish football no longer apply and as it stands, we depend on them making an complete erse of things. Only way out is for a good manager to be given time to build a team/squad. I thought Clement was that man. Now, I'm not sure but looking at his signings, he does seem committed to the medium term and we need to support the 'project' and cross our fingers. Given expectation timescales, I'm not optimistic. As for what Compo was getting at. When you come away from an OF scudding with questions about the application of some players, it suggests that something isn't quite right. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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