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15 hours ago, Scott7 said:

Liverpool will score three.

Arsenal may be restricted to three.

Brenttford will beat Wolves 2-0 maybe 3-1.

You could be right about Leicester.

City will concede at least one against Fulham but it won’t matter because they will score more.

Ipswich might just get two against the Hammers so it will be a draw.

Everton v Magpies is the most difficult to predict. 1-1?

Villa 1-3 United, I’m afraid.

Chelsea 4-0 Forest.

BHA 2-1 ‘Spurs.

 

EDIT. Half time at Palace 0-1 but I made my prediction before looking. No need to change. Three it will be.

 

EDIT 2.  Three it was not. That’s the Scouse for you. Let you down when you trust them.

A couple of good additions there. 

 

Its the correct result that matters rather than the scores 😎

 

Wolves are a shambles, conceded 21 goals so far averaging 3 a game. My tip for them to go down is looking likely depending if they make a change of manager this international break. 

 

 

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14 hours ago, ChelseaBoy said:

If he manages to sort the defence and swaps the goalkeeper Chelsea will be top 4 edging out Villa and should win the mickey mouse Conf league.... especially if West Ham can do it. 

Its a much easier Competition to win this season, there was still one or two biggish teams in it when West Ham won it plus Villa could only get to the semi's. Not having Europa League teams drop into it helps - and that is totally the correct rule change (and no CL teams dropping down to EL)

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5 hours ago, Gribz said:

A couple of good additions there. 

You do the work, old bean. I’ll embellish it.   And still get it wrong.

 

5 hours ago, Gribz said:

Wolves are a shambles, conceded 21 goals so far averaging 3 a game. My tip for them to go down is looking likely depending if they make a change of manager this international break

Sadly, the Wolves shot their bolt about three seasons ago. I thought they’d go down last season. This season nothing can be more certain.

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Will watch the Aston villa talon United later doesn't matter if United eventually sack the manger he's probably going to get some nice compensation.

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11 hours ago, compo said:

No goals at Villa park but I’d say united are ahead on points at the moment 

First half was terrible, second half had chances but it had 0-0 written all over it from the first whistle. 

 

Man Utd have had Spurs, Porto and Villa in 7 days and not won a game, Ten Hag cant turn it around. But he is being clever in the media - it sounds like cryptic messages to the board by repeating what they said to him in the summer after talking to Tuchel - I.E "we are in it together" - yet the media dont see this and think he is just coming out with daft quotes. 

 

Tottenham throwing away a nice lead at Brighton. 

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BREAKING NEWSManchester City DEFEAT the Premier League in legal challenge over rules about 'inflated' sponsor deals from companies linked to their owners - which threatens to blow up football's financial regulations

Manchester City have scored a seismic victory in their war with the Premier League after new rules on sponsorship deals were branded 'unlawful'.

In a significant, landmark verdict that will send shockwaves through the top flight, a heavyweight panel of retired judges has ruled that regulations aimed at preventing clubs from inflating deals with companies linked to their owners breach the Competition Act - and that the top flight was wrong to stop two recent City deals. 

The Abu Dhabi-owned four-in-a-row champions, currently facing 115 charges of breaking Premier League financial rules in a separate case, took the league to court earlier this year. They claimed the rules, brought in after the Saudi-led takeover of Newcastle United and amended in February, were unfair. 

 

And in a ruling that could spell trouble for others – not least rivals Arsenal – the system on Associated Party Transactions (APTs) was deemed unlawful. The panel gave a number of reasons, including the fact that the rules do not extend to loans from owners and shareholders.

Of £4billion borrowed across the league £1.5bn comes from shareholder loans - including all of the Gunners estimated £250m borrowings and almost all of Brighton's.

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Man City have won their legal challenge against the Premier League's sponsorship rules 

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Pep Guardiola's side took legal action against these sanctions that they deemed as a form of 'discrimination' in February

Others in a similar position could also now be impacted should the rules subsequently change. 

In a statement on Monday, City said: 'Manchester City Football Club thanks the distinguished members of the Arbitral Tribunal for their work and considerations and welcomes their findings.'

In a statement of no fewer than 1,248 words, the Premier League said it ‘welcomed’ the panel’s findings ‘which endorsed the overall objectives, framework and decision-making of the APT system’.

It added: ‘The tribunal did, however, identify a small number of discrete elements of the rules which do not, in their current form, comply with competition and public law requirements. These elements can quickly and effectively be remedied by the league and clubs.’

The statement added that the APT system would continue to operate ‘taking into account the findings made by the tribunal’.

City had argued that such payments were unfair and not at market value as they were often at zero or no interest or did not have to be repaid at all. If commercial rates are now applied – and those loans included in club's profit and sustainability accounts - many could find themselves in breach of financial regulation in what could be a nightmare scenario that would heap pressure on Premier League bosses. 

The verdict could also open the door for City and others to pen significantly higher deals with related parties.

The bombshell findings, seen by Mail Sport, were delivered in a 175-page report to clubs this afternoon. It remains to be seen what happens next. City are expected to seek costs and damages while the Premier League are expected to have to amend or dump the system entirely. Other clubs could also seek damages should they believe they have been impacted.

The panel ruled the league was wrong to reject, under ATP rules, a wide-ranging new sponsorship deal City had lined up with Etihad late last year. City's previous 10-year deal with the Abu Dhabi-based airline features heavily in the separate case on the 115 charges.

The stopping of another deal with an Abu Dhabi-based bank was also branded procedurally unfair.

City's expensively-assembled legal team led by Lord Pannick, the KC spearheading City's defence against the 115, launched a series of claims against APT rules, many of which centred on the element that deals had to represent what the league deemed Fair Market Value (FMV). They claimed rules were designed to end their reign of success and were the result of a 'tyranny of the majority'.

While many of their claims were rejected, they scored victories in no fewer than seven key arguments. City had only needed to show the rules were unlawful for one reason.

The Premier League are set to have to amend or dump the system entirely following the verdict (chief executive Richard Masters pictured)
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  • 2 weeks later...

Woohoo - International football away for another few weeks. 

 

The early kick off could be like a basketball match.

 

Tottenham 3-3 West Ham 

Fulham 1-1 Aston Villa

Ipswich 1-1 Everton

Man Utd 2-1 Brentford 

Newcastle 2-1 Brighton

Southampton 0-0 Leicester

Bournemouth 0-2 Arsenal

 

Wolves 0-4 Man City

Liverpool 2-0 Chelsea

Nottingham Forest 1-1 Crystal Palace

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