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1 hour ago, Rousseau said:

Did Utd not approach Tuchel and he turned them down?

They spoke with him in the summer and were very open about it but there was no agreement. Tuchel likes more control than just being a coach and Ineos were bringing in the Ashworth / Wilcox set up.

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12 hours ago, compo said:

Is it the players or the manager that's to blame 

There are definitely still bad apples in that dressing room and their effort is not there. Ten Hag cant be blamed for some of the useless give away passes they were doing all over the park. On the flip side Ive no idea what identity they have in any game so yes its both. 

 

It was always a 5 year job to rid all previous players, they still need rid of Rashford, McGuire, Lindelof, Fernandes etc plus Evans and Erikson are pretty much finished. But Ten Hags singings are very questionable - I dont rate the goalkeeper, Anthony has never shown near worth 80m and Mount has been one of the worst signings in premier league era and the strikers are very raw. 

 

I think Ten Hag wants the sack after the owners interviewing in the summer. He was firefighting behind the scenes in the last two seasons with multiple issues. 

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7 hours ago, Gribz said:

There are definitely still bad apples in that dressing room and their effort is not there. Ten Hag cant be blamed for some of the useless give away passes they were doing all over the park. On the flip side Ive no idea what identity they have in any game so yes its both. 

 

It was always a 5 year job to rid all previous players, they still need rid of Rashford, McGuire, Lindelof, Fernandes etc plus Evans and Erikson are pretty much finished. But Ten Hags singings are very questionable - I dont rate the goalkeeper, Anthony has never shown near worth 80m and Mount has been one of the worst signings in premier league era and the strikers are very raw. 

 

I think Ten Hag wants the sack after the owners interviewing in the summer. He was firefighting behind the scenes in the last two seasons with multiple issues. 

Aye he will get some nice compensation money if sacked 

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Im going against the odds and tipping first wins of the season for Leicester and Wolves today. Palace just havent got started this season for some reason and Liverpool are winning ugly and playing well so will still be without a win, as will Southampton after their manager publicly called out the players and said he wont change his style. Ipswich are up against a West Ham side who must win. 

 

If Villa dont have a Euro hangover they could tank Man Utd. 

 

Crystal Palace 0-2 Liverpool

Arsenal 5-0 Southampton

Brentford 1-2 Wolves

Leicester 1-0 Bournemouth

Man City 2-0 Fulham

West Ham 2-0 Ipswich

Everton 1-2 Newcastle

 

Aston Villa 3-0 Man Utd

Chelsea 2-0 Nottingham Forest

Brighton 1-1 Tottenham

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6 hours ago, Gribz said:

Im going against the odds and tipping first wins of the season for Leicester and Wolves today. Palace just havent got started this season for some reason and Liverpool are winning ugly and playing well so will still be without a win, as will Southampton after their manager publicly called out the players and said he wont change his style. Ipswich are up against a West Ham side who must win. 

 

If Villa dont have a Euro hangover they could tank Man Utd. 

 

Crystal Palace 0-2 Liverpool

Arsenal 5-0 Southampton

Brentford 1-2 Wolves

Leicester 1-0 Bournemouth

Man City 2-0 Fulham

West Ham 2-0 Ipswich

Everton 1-2 Newcastle

 

Aston Villa 3-0 Man Utd

Chelsea 2-0 Nottingham Forest

Brighton 1-1 Tottenham

Chelsea have come into form of late 

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