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2 minutes ago, Scott7 said:

Wednesday, Blackburn, West Brom and Sunderland at the top of a league. Is it the 1940s again?

I always thought Blackburn were more of a recent* success? Were they successful back then? 

 

* 90s

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10 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

I always thought Blackburn were more of a recent* success? Were they successful back then? 

You’re right. They weren’t all that great. Did well enough in the early sixties. Neighbours Burnley and Preston North End did much better. 

 

Wednesday weren’t even as good as that. Sunderland did all right. WBA were quite successful.

 

They were all clubs with history not that history is worth very much as we are painfully discovering.

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The super duper computer predicts the outcome like this top ten 

 

Man City 94 pts

 

Arsenal 86

 

Liverpool 80

 

Man United 71

 

Chelsea 67

 

Aston Villa 65

 

Spurs 63

 

West Ham 57

 

Newcastle 57

 

Brentford 57

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EXCLUSIVEInside Man United's £2bn super stadium master plan: An intimidating Red Wall of fans, a 24-7 money-making complex... and help from a Man City season-ticket holder

Who can blame Manchester United for wanting to build a new stadium? Old Trafford has fallen into disrepair. 

The roof leaks and the famous old ground has become a relic unbefitting of the world’s biggest football club.

United could still opt to redevelop Old Trafford, of course, but should they take the plunge on a new ground it will be the biggest, most expensive project of its kind Britain has seen. 

Estimates range from £2billion upwards, with plans not only for a new state-of-the-art stadium but also vast swathes of land around it.

Here, Mail Sport examines what it takes to carry out such a gargantuan task — and why the Red Devils are taking inspiration from the City of Angels.

Manchester United are assessing their options as they look to establish whether to build a new stadium or refurbish Old Trafford

Manchester United are assessing their options as they look to establish whether to build a new stadium or refurbish Old Trafford

Their iconic stadium has fallen into disrepair over recent years with the roof leaking

Their iconic stadium has fallen into disrepair over recent years with the roof leaking

Building a new stadium would be the most expensive project of its kind

Building a new stadium would be the most expensive project of its kind

Design and feel 

How do you want your stadium to look and feel? That is the first major question that needs to be answered.

In Los Angeles, they wanted a ‘Southern California feel’ for SoFi Stadium, which opened in 2020 and is widely viewed as one of the best venues on the planet. To them, that meant bringing the inside, outside. Cover, but not domes. Designers wanted those present to feel the cool breeze of the Pacific from their seats.

When it comes to Manchester, a roof that does not leak would be a start. But designers will be given the major task of representing United in stadium format. That means a big, impressive stadium for a big, impressive club. A cash-generating tourist attraction but also a cauldron of noise.

In a perfect world, a capacity of 100,000, as mentioned by Sir Jim Ratcliffe, would make United’s new stadium the second-biggest in Europe, after Barcelona’s redeveloped Nou Camp.

In the spring of 2022, the Glazer family commissioned consultants to examine options for a redevelopment. Populous, the designers of Tottenham’s bar- setting home, were tasked with coming up with a masterplan. They teamed up with US project manager Legends, which also worked on the redevelopment of Liverpool’s Anfield Road stand.

It is understood that a key part of their work was a major examination of United’s fanbase. Data was crunched not just on numbers, season-ticket holders and waiting lists but also on demographics and disposable income. The aim of that exercise, which now happens with most sporting new builds, was to ensure the venue catered for all needs and maximised revenues.

Spurs are thought to have nailed it in this area by identifying no fewer than nine levels of varying corporate offerings. Gone are the days when fans had a binary choice between a full service, four-course meal in a box, and a regular seat. Those who visit can now choose from varying levels of add-ons and experiences.

But although Spurs benefit from being based in London, they don’t have United’s fanbase. Already on a regular matchday, United host thousands of overseas supporters in corporate areas and there is the potential for huge growth in the number of fans visiting from China and India.

The SoFi Stadium, which opened in 2020, is widely viewed as one of the best venues on the planet, and an arena United could take inspiration from
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Only five English players starting in the first premiership match of the season and united playing without a recognized centre forward maybe we should try that give Dressers a seat on the bench against StJohnstone tomorrow.

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