compo 7,038 Posted July 12 Author Share Posted July 12 I see the bookies have Spain as slight favourites 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 5,186 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 3 minutes ago, compo said: I see the bookies have Spain as slight favourites I think it is a game that is very difficult to call. Won't be visiting the bookies. Here is hoping the Spanish win 🤞🏽🇪🇦 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 15,293 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 (edited) Spain have been by far the best side throughout the tournament but that doesn't mean they'll win it. I think how Kane is used will have a big bearing on it (if Southgate goes with Toney or Watkins, England stand a far better chance of winning). If England win, the likes of Lineker and Wright will be unbearable but on the flipside, especially after last week's SNP drubbing, just imagine how depressed it will make Scottish Nationalists feel. Edited July 12 by Gonzo79 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo 7,038 Posted July 12 Author Share Posted July 12 17 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said: Spain have been by far the best side throughout the tournament but that doesn't mean they'll win it. I think how Kane is used will have a big bearing on it (if Southgate goes with Toney or Watkins, England stand a far better chance of winning). If England win, the likes of Lineker and Wright will be unbearable but on the flipside, especially after last week's SNP drubbing, just imagine how depressed it will make Scottish Nationalists feel. Some might be suicidal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 15,293 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 7 minutes ago, compo said: Some might be suicidal 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biblio 148 Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 Is the European Championship a competition that is worth winning? The last few decades would suggest not. Starting with 1988 (mainly because it seemed to be just an afterthought of a tournament before then) we have the Netherlands a swinners. they went on to flop in the 1990 World Cup. 1992 Denmark won the trophy. didn't even qualify for the 1994 World cup. 1996 Germany won and flopped in the 1998 World Cup. Czech Rep made the final and didn't even qualify for the following World Cup. 2000 France won but were humiliated in the 2002 World Cup. 2004 Greece were winners but failed to qualify for the 2006 World Cup. 2008 - well that one is an outlier. Spain won and then went on to win the 2010 World cup. However... ...Spain won the 2012 Euros and failed dismally in the 2014 World Cup. 2016 Portugal winners but failed to do much in the next World Cup. 2021 Italy won the Euros and we all know how crap they have been since. It looks like winning the European Championship is no guide to how a team will do in the only international competition that really counts - the World Cup. Don't expect BBC etc to see it this way though. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo 7,038 Posted July 14 Author Share Posted July 14 Any competition is worth winning 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biblio 148 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 8 minutes ago, compo said: Any competition is worth winning It depends on how you define worth. A major country winning the Euros is a bit like Real Madrid winning the Europa it's not the real thing. An achievement for small countries like Greece but not for bigger nations. And I think Italy would much rather have been in the World Cup than win a second tier tournament on penalties. Of course, there isn't some shop where you can trade these things in so the point is academic really. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 15,293 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) 19 hours ago, Biblio said: Is the European Championship a competition that is worth winning? Winning trophies is what it's all about. England can only really win two and they have never won this one, so it'd be huge for them. Edited July 14 by Gonzo79 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franc Ergs 1,651 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Spain are superior in every way ,and if they play like they can, then they will rip England apart . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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