Moles in the Camp

[CammyF 9,285]

  On 12/05/2024 at 08:31, RANGERRAB said:

Now we have to replace Butland 😩

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I'm sure that there are a few other Butlands out there. This is the issue we have, we hold on to him for another year or two and due to his age, his value decreases and fans will sat "he should have been sold earlier". 

 

If there is a substantial offer on the table for JB (or any of our players) then we simply have to accept it. 

[MacK1950 2,454]

Oh for the "Four Lad's That Had A Dream " to be still about or get persons of the same ilk then maybe our dreams will be re-kindled.

[Whosthedado 1,850]

  On 12/05/2024 at 08:54, CammyF said:

I'm sure that there are a few other Butlands out there. This is the issue we have, we hold on to him for another year or two and due to his age, his value decreases and fans will sat "he should have been sold earlier". 

 

If there is a substantial offer on the table for JB (or any of our players) then we simply have to accept it. 

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Yilmaz will go for more  

[CammyF 9,285]

  On 12/05/2024 at 20:16, Whosthedado said:

Yilmaz will go for more  

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I hope he does 😀

[Sutton_blows_goats 6,089]

  On 12/05/2024 at 08:54, CammyF said:

If there is a substantial offer on the table for JB (or any of our players) then we simply have to accept it. 

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Very much so, we are no longer in a position to hold on to an asset and let it walk out the door a couple of years later for nothing. 

 

We also need to have more confidence in our ability to recruit, rather than be afraid of letting go.

[Uilleam 6,344]

It strikes me that the vaunted 'Player Trading Model' only really works when you have gettable, already identified, replacements for the asset(s) whom you wish, or need, to sell. 

If you don't have this crucial part of the model in place, then you end up keeping players to pacify the manager, and the support, and risking these assets disappearing on a Bosman for free (and, of course, with no replacements in immediate view).

 

Is it too much to hope that we move towards this slicker, more professional,  m.o.?

Or is it all just too difficult?

[compo 7,840]

  On 14/05/2024 at 08:45, Uilleam said:

It strikes me that the vaunted 'Player Trading Model' only really works when you have gettable, already identified, replacements for the asset(s) whom you wish, or need, to sell. 

If you don't have this crucial part of the model in place, then you end up keeping players to pacify the manager, and the support, and risking these assets disappearing on a Bosman for free (and, of course, with no replacements in immediate view).

 

Is it too much to hope that we move towards this slicker, more professional,  m.o.?

Or is it all just too difficult?

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It would also help if we had reserve players academy boys ready to step up young players to get five years or so from them then sell for a ride we don't seem to be any good in this department in fact crap .

[Sutton_blows_goats 6,089]

  On 14/05/2024 at 08:45, Uilleam said:

It strikes me that the vaunted 'Player Trading Model' only really works when you have gettable, already identified, replacements for the asset(s) whom you wish, or need, to sell. 

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It shouldn't be difficult upgrading on many of the players we have, its a low bar. Half of them cant even stay fit enough to get game time.

[Uilleam 6,344]

  On 14/05/2024 at 09:43, compo said:

It would also help if we had reserve players academy boys ready to step up young players to get five years or so from them then sell for a ride we don't seem to be any good in this department in fact crap .

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Ideally, you would have a 'production line' of young talent. The problem is that this, to be successful, requires an enormous operation, involving age groups from 5/6/7 yrs upwards, and, what has always seemed to me, at least, a rather harsh culling operation, telling really very young children that they are being cut.

We seem, and are not alone in this, to poach players from other clubs, at c16/17 yrs, for a 'development fee'. This must be a cheaper option. Has it been successful? 

 The aim must be to have young players to step into the shoes of your bankable assets.m, along with a comprehensive  programme of potential acquisitions. 

[Sutton_blows_goats 6,089]

  On 14/05/2024 at 10:50, Uilleam said:

We seem, and are not alone in this, to poach players from other clubs, at c16/17 yrs, for a 'development fee'. This must be a cheaper option. Has it been successful?

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Tony Weston, Archie Stevens and Zak Lovelace say no.