Malangsob 1,264 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Sometimes you gotta sniff shit to appreciate a rose. Not the end of the world. Rangers will be back. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 15,293 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Malangsob said: Rangers will be back We were back in 2021 but have subsequently ballsed the whole thing up. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo 7,038 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 We've gone downhill steadily since 2000 look at the trophies won column and compare it to the hooped horrors it makes for some dismissal reading. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERRAB 3,663 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 37 minutes ago, compo said: We've gone downhill steadily since 2000 look at the trophies won column and compare it to the hooped horrors it makes for some dismissal reading. You can thank Mr Murray for most of that 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, RANGERRAB said: You can thank Mr Murray for most of that Yes but I also blame everyone else for having no response to Murray quitting, even though he gave plenty warning he was going to go. It was as if even as he walked out the door we were still relying on Murray to ensure everything was OK. For so many years the entire club and support had become over-dependent on one man and there was no one capable of stepping forward and stop the slide into chaos. Edited October 10, 2023 by Bill 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 8,087 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Bill said: Yes but I also blame everyone else for having no response to Murray quitting, even though he gave plenty warning he was going to go. It was as if even as he walked out the door we were still relying on Murray to ensure everything was OK. For so many years the entire club and support had become over-dependent on one man and there was no one capable of stepping forward and stop the slide into chaos. 100% - except it wasn't the entire support just the vast majority. There are still Rangers fans who'll not hear a bad word said against Mr Moonbeams. Edited October 10, 2023 by CammyF 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 43 minutes ago, CammyF said: 100% - except it wasn't the entire support just the vast majority. There are still Rangers fans who'll not hear a bad word said against Mr Moonbeams. I cautioned at the time we were too wedded to Murray and I know you did too. I also saw the absurd reaction that you did when some fans dared to protest against him. That evening shames us all and sometimes it's hard not to think we earned some of the nightmare we were about to go through. Of course, once the barbarians were allowed (invited) through the gates, it was too late to do anything about it. But it didn't have to be like that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 8,087 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Bill said: I cautioned at the time we were too wedded to Murray and I know you did too. I also saw the absurd reaction that you did when some fans dared to protest against him. That evening shames us all and sometimes it's hard not to think we earned some of the nightmare we were about to go through. Of course, once the barbarians were allowed (invited) through the gates, it was too late to do anything about it. But it didn't have to be like that. That night was the one and only time I questioned whether I should continue to support Rangers. Given what came after that night, that may surprise some. To be spat at, threatened, called all sorts was bad enough, but then to hear Murray not only support, but congratulate those who attacked the protesters had we questioning if I wanted to be a Rangers fan. Thankfully I saw sense and continued to support our club and whilst it's been hard at times, never regretted it. As for your point about earning what came after that dark night, it's hard to disagree with this. Edited October 10, 2023 by CammyF 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERRAB 3,663 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Too many didn’t know Murray was a businessman who took many risks which ultimately led to MIH collapse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 26th of foot 6,082 Posted October 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2023 2 hours ago, RANGERRAB said: Too many didn’t know Murray was a businessman who took many risks which ultimately led to MIH collapse During 2002, Murray had a dozen companies leeching off Rangers. At the time, Ibrox had more corporate hospitality capability than any other stadium in the UK. Rangers paid to install the kitchens, Murray noted they were only being utilised once a fortnight on average. He formed Azure Catering and the kitchens went 24/7 providing food for hospitality at football, rugby, cricket, .................... speedway grounds across the UK. In it's third year, Azure had a turnover of £22 million and, a profit of £5 million paid to 95% majority shareholder, David Murray. In the fourth year, Rangers were responsible for replacing the kitchens. For every pound he injected into the club after 1998, he took in excess of £11 out. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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