[Official] Rangers part company with Beale

[alexscottislegend 2,320]

14 hours ago, ranger_syntax said:

All our options are rubbish.

 

The next manager will be rubbish.

You must be Schopenhauer resurrected!

[Sutton_blows_goats 5,329]

34 minutes ago, Bluedell said:

Why does Jansen strike fear into you?

• Dutch schooled manager - they don't tend to perform well outside of Holland 
• AZ Alkmaar - were performing well under previous coach who done well at Feyenoord, has the built something better or is he keeping a good thing going
• How much influence in transfers does he have or is it a DoF led / analyst & scout approach?
• What is 'success' at Alkmaar? if its finishing about 8th place or higher in the league, that's not exactly representative of expectations here
• Is 50 odd and in his first managers job
• How often do AZ Alkmaar play against the low block and can he beat it?
• Done ok in Europe to be fair

 

Edited October 3, 2023 by Sutton_blows_goats

[Bill 13,717]

5 minutes ago, Sutton_blows_goats said:

• Dutch schooled manager - they don't tend to perform well outside of Holland 
• AZ Alkmaar - were performing well under previous coach who done well at Feyenoord, has the built something better or is he keeping a good thing going
• How much influence in transfers does he have or is it a DoF led / analyst & scout approach?
• What is 'success' at Alkmaar? if its finishing about 8th place or higher in the league, that's not exactly representative of expectations here
• Is 50 odd and in his first managers job
• How often do AZ Alkmaar play against the low block and can he beat it?
• Done ok in Europe to be fair

At best, Jansen would be another gamble. We can't afford that and I hope we steer well clear.

[PoohBear 1,148]

Jansen and Muscat both frighten me. Muscat appears to have a decent record, but when you dig down into it the Australia league is one of those weird ones where the top half of the table or so qualify for a knock-out cup to see who wins the league, he’s actually only come top of the league once I believe. He’s done well in Japan too but both clubs he’s done well at he’s come in straight after postecoglu, the one team he didn’t do that with he managed 2 wins in 15 before being sacked.

 

Jansen might be good, but to me appears to be another gamble. He’s done decently with AZ from what I can see, but AZ were riding slightly higher before he took over it seems so he’s really treaded water with them rather than improved them. Steve McLaren won the league there with FC Twente not so long ago, a much better achievement in my opinion…. I dunno, his European record doesn’t look that amazing when you look at the detail. Sure, getting the the semi final of any European cup is an achievement, but the only really impressive victory during that run looks to be against Lazlo, the next most impressive fixture was a draw over two legs with Anderlecht and getting through on pens.

[Sutton_blows_goats 5,329]

4 minutes ago, PoohBear said:

He’s done well in Japan too but both clubs he’s done well at he’s come in straight after postecoglu, the one team he didn’t do that with he managed 2 wins in 15 before being sacked.

Yep, has basically taken over from him, kept the team playing the same way and if he gets stuck gives Ange a phone for advice. 

 

That's not a Rangers manager for me.

[ranger_syntax 4,320]

fear, frightened

 

The next manager will be rubbish but there is no need for all this cuckery.

[Gonzo79 15,292]

'Disappointed' would probably a better word.  However, I do think some of us harbour unrealistic expectations (myself included, at times).

 

Let's just hope the board don't take the easy/lazy route this time and appoint the person with the best credentials, within our affordability. 

[Bill 13,717]

6 minutes ago, Sutton_blows_goats said:

Yep, has basically taken over from him, kept the team playing the same way and if he gets stuck gives Ange a phone for advice.

That's not a Rangers manager for me.

Muscat might be brilliant for Rangers. He might equally be another disaster. Whatever way you look at it, he would be another experiment, a gamble, and that alone should remove him from any serious consideration.

[Bill 13,717]

2 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

'Disappointed' would probably a better word.  However, I do think some of us harbour unrealistic expectations (myself included, at times).

 

Let's just hope the board don't take the easy/lazy route this time and appoint the person with the best credentials, within our affordability. 

Yes, that's all they can do. If God himself was making the appointment there would still be no guarantees in this game. On this occasion however I don't believe Brian Laudrup is involved.

[stewarty 2,025]

Reading a couple of posters saying that Dutch Managers don't tend to travel well outside of Holland.  Off the top of my head, i can think of the following who all had more than reasonable levels of success out with their home nation.

 

- Rijkaard

- Koeman

- Cruyff

- Advocaat

- Van Gaal

- Hiddink

 

Not suggesting that this is the level we are shopping for, and for every Cruyff there's a Martin Jol, but I'm not sure I'm buying this argument.

 

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