Bill 13,717 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 47 minutes ago, alexscottislegend said: Calling me a liar then? Put it this way. I think you’re so burdened with chips on your shoulder about socialism and nationalism that forming an honest view of the world must be almost impossible. You’re welcome. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexscottislegend 2,318 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Bluedell said: Also is not referring to the Battle of Bannockburn? Talking about 'rising again' I take to refer to Flodden when the flower of Scotland were crushed but maybe I'm wrong; you need to ask Roy Williamson who's deid now anyway 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexscottislegend 2,318 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bill said: Put it this way. I think you’re so burdened with chips on your shoulder about socialism and nationalism that forming an honest view of the world must be almost impossible. You’re welcome. And you must be well-balanced with chips on both shoulders. I'm a socialist not a nationalist. No dichotomy there. And the SNP are assuredly not socialist before you accuse me of being an SNP schill. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 46 minutes ago, alexscottislegend said: 'rebellious Scots to crush' When you resort to a complete myth and sell it as wisdom …. that’s probably the time for serious reappraisal of your beliefs 😏 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 15,292 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, alexscottislegend said: Talking about 'rising again' I take to refer to Flodden when the flower of Scotland were crushed but maybe I'm wrong; you need to ask Roy Williamson who's deid now anyway It's about the battle of Bannockburn. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,624 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, alexscottislegend said: Talking about 'rising again' I take to refer to Flodden when the flower of Scotland were crushed but maybe I'm wrong; you need to ask Roy Williamson who's deid now anyway Those days are passed now And in the past they must remain But we can still rise now And be a nation again Seems fairly clear that the rising is talking about present day (note the use of "now") and not the Battle of Flodden. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7 5,997 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 If Williamson were referring to Bannockburn he should have remembered that the losers, although indeed an army of Edward, the Edward in question wasn’t all that proud. The proud one had died seven years before on his way to hammer us again. If he’s referring to Stirling Bridge the vanquished army was one of proud Edward’s right enough but it might have been the second eleven because the big team were in Europe that day. And we lost the replay at Falkirk. Puir auld Scotland, eh? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Scott7 said: If Williamson were referring to Bannockburn he should have remembered that the losers, although indeed an army of Edward, the Edward in question wasn’t all that proud. The proud one had died seven years before on his way to hammer us again. If he’s referring to Stirling Bridge the vanquished army was one of proud Edward’s right enough but it might have been the second eleven because the big team were in Europe that day. And we lost the replay at Falkirk. Puir auld Scotland, eh? Aye but wha's like us eh? 🙄 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7 5,997 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bill said: Aye but wha's like us eh? 🙄 “Damn few an’ they’re a’ deid” is the traditional response. I’d prefer “Damn few an’ nae deid yet”. Bit more optimistic. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 After almost 25 years of devolution, it's clear to me that the chances of Scotland ever being "the nation again" and "rising now" are as close to zero as makes no difference. As always, that deep and persistent flaw in the Scottish character that unerringly puts forward crooks and cretins to do the rising has predictably brought us back to our knees. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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