Rousseau 11,710 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Someone made a good point about the players Lammers has been competing with over the last few years: Santos Borre, Lindstrom; Quagliarella, Gabbiadini; Jese Rodriguez, Luis Muriel, Lookman, Hojlund, Zapata. Top class strikers. Man Utd are looking at Hojland from £40M. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger_syntax 4,809 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) At the end of October we will still be looking at stats. It's just going to be a retrospective on x-C (expected complaints) and x-D (expected denial - a personal favourite). Edited June 13, 2023 by ranger_syntax 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoohBear 1,154 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Lammers' stats are underwhelming to say the least. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 11,710 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 On 13/06/2023 at 06:24, PoohBear said: Lammers' stats are underwhelming to say the least. Expand You mean one stat: Goals scored. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoohBear 1,154 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 On 13/06/2023 at 06:50, Rousseau said: You mean one stat: Goals scored. Expand 4 goals and 2 assists over 3 seasons is underwhelming for a forward, yes. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMAA 3,742 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 On 13/06/2023 at 06:50, Rousseau said: You mean one stat: Goals scored. Expand Well, his detailed stats are remarkably bad too. Not writing him off, but goals aren't the only red flag. https://fbref.com/en/players/c283ddef/scout/365_m1/Sam-Lammers-Scouting-Report 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 11,710 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 On 13/06/2023 at 06:59, DMAA said: Well, his detailed stats are remarkably bad too. Not writing him off, but goals aren't the only red flag. https://fbref.com/en/players/c283ddef/scout/365_m1/Sam-Lammers-Scouting-Report Expand What are the other red flags? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoohBear 1,154 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) On 13/06/2023 at 07:01, Rousseau said: What are the other red flags? Expand Dude here going hard on the defence of a player no one knows. We are all going on stats, and the major ones for his role are not really just underwhelming, they are entirely at the wrong end of the scale. That doesn't mean he can't be a success, but of course I'm hardly excited to be signing a forward who hasn't been able to finish or assist for 3 years. Edited June 13, 2023 by PoohBear 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 11,710 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 On 13/06/2023 at 07:04, PoohBear said: Dude here going hard on the defence of a player no one knows. We are all going on stats, and the major ones for his role are not really just underwhelming, they are entirely at the wrong end of the scale. That doesn't mean he can't be a success, but of course I'm hardly excited to be signing a forward who hasn't been able to finish or assist for 3 years. Expand Calm down. I'm just asking what the stats are? You said 'stats', which suggests you have an array of stats, but I assumed, rightly, that you just meant one stat in particular. I wanted to clear that up. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMAA 3,742 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 On 13/06/2023 at 07:01, Rousseau said: What are the other red flags? Expand Well, where the goals return is poor you expect to see the creative stats make up for it. That’s not the case here, there are a myriad of creative stats that are very poor, some that are acceptable. Or you maybe look for signs that he’s been unlucky with goals, but it doesn’t look like he has been unlucky. In the 11th percentile for non-pen xG, also the 11th for shots on target % (the Dutch Kent), 7th percentile for miscontrols another one that stands out. He's clearly good at dribbling and tackling. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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