Confirmed: Michael Beale named Rangers manager

[Bill 13,717]

2 hours ago, Rousseau said:

Agreed. 

 

That's the modern game. Managers are coaches now; they have to implement a style of play, instil tactics and strategy, improve players etc.

 

Gone are the days where a manager just assembles a team, organises them ('four-four-f*cking-two!') and lets them go. Those types don't work now; the game is too complex. 

But is there any indication that fans have evolved accordingly? 😉

[Devil's advocaat 1,541]

46 minutes ago, Bill said:

But is there any indication that fans have evolved accordingly? 😉

Christ no, there's folk on here still shouting about Gullane 🤣

[ranger_syntax 4,321]

6 hours ago, buster. said:

The direction we have to take will be more down to finance, than to the new manager.

 

If Michael Beale and the board are on the very same page regards direction of travel, then it has a better chance of working. Presuming that to be the case (very hypothetical), if the club can successfully communicate this to the support and have expectation levels at a realistic level (very optimistic), it might mitigate teething problems turning into something worse.

 

There is an AGM in a weeks time, someone has to show some leadership.

 

4 hours ago, Frankie said:

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Beale may or may not have been brought in to get more out of the current squad. But he'll also need to deliver changes with various players expected to leave over the next 6-9 months.  In that sense, he'll need financial backing from the board and fans will need to be realistic in what they expect should we indeed undergo wholescale changes in the playing squad.

 

As such, it would certainly be agreeable for the board to communicate that and at least attempt to get everyone on the same page. If not, then we could easily be back to mutiny this time in January should results not improve. I'd suggest getting ahead of the curve may allow for a bit more goodwill and patience.

 

Unrealistic and somewhat naiive to expect board clarity and fan patience to go hand in hand maybe but certainly not rubbish.

Beale has been in the door for 5 minutes and buster is worrying about alignment with the board. It is not possible to take that seriously.

 

I feel very positive about the finances. Not perfect but I think that we are in a better position than we have been for a very long time. Experts might correct me. Either way we will be in an even better position when we free up the wage donated to Morelos, Helander et al.

 

As pointed out elsewhere the act of managing expectations has zero purpose when dealing with football supporters. We will be happy if we win and angry if we lose. The idea that this will change if only we had some 'communication' is a very silly fairy story.

 

Finally he makes a bizarre plea for leadership. In my estimation leadership has little to do with acting on the endless stream of irrational complaints that will come from any support. Again it is impossible to take stuff like this seriously. Almost every time that an opportunity to take responsibility emerges, in the form of shares, you will hear little above the cacophony of excuses.

[ranger_syntax 4,321]

4 hours ago, Frankie said:

It reads fairly reasonable to me.  Instead of the gratuitous one-line dig, why not flesh out where he's wrong?

Yes, my response was beneath the standards of discussion found elsewhere.

 

I just found it too difficult, at the time, to respond to such a load of rubbish in any other way.

[Scott7 6,004]

2 hours ago, Bill said:

a couple of hours at a board meeting might be more of an education than many fans want to receive. 

By God, yes.

[ascender 352]

Yes, like @ranger_syntax says, the review of the accounts by people who actually know what they're talking about seems to be very encouraging.

 

Its also unfair to say the board hasn't backed Gio and Gerrard in the transfer market and that all Ross Wilson's signings have been terrible as its all a lot more nuanced than that.

The board have clearly made some bad decisions (Australian tour anyone?) and seem way out of touch with the fans on some important issues (disabled supporter access & provisions) so they do need to improve how they communicate and engage on those kind of things, but on the football & budget/accounts things, they can't come out and be as transparent as some fans want because that's not how businesses work.

But we all know how it works. If we're winning, everyone is happy. Which is probably why following #55, there was very little criticism about the squad, because we thought it would all be fine, when in reality, some of our starting XI should have been moved-on then, with the rest following the season after, precisely so we didn't find ourselves in this position.

Edited November 29, 2022 by ascender

[Devil's advocaat 1,541]

4 minutes ago, ascender said:

Its also unfair to say the board hasn't backed Gio and Gerrard in the transfer market and that all Ross Wilson's signing have been terrible as its all a lot more nuanced than that

Indeed, it's not so long ago we had a thread 'in praise of Ross Wilson' 😉

[MacK1950 2,376]

Regards communication with a previous incumbent to the PR we had a badly leaking problem.

This seems to been fixed and if was fixed by"a plumber" he done a bloody good job as now there seems no leaks and no comms.

[buster. 5,186]

6 hours ago, ranger_syntax said:

 

Beale has been in the door for 5 minutes and buster is worrying about alignment with the board. It is not possible to take that seriously.

I said... If Michael Beale and the board are on the very same page regards direction of travel, then it has a better chance of working.

 

The conversations before the contract was signed would have been in part abut trying to make sure both parties understood each other and were in general broad agreement about the way forward. 

 

Basic but important.

 

 

6 hours ago, ranger_syntax said:

 

I feel very positive about the finances. Not perfect but I think that we are in a better position than we have been for a very long time. Experts might correct me. Either way we will be in an even better position when we free up the wage donated to Morelos, Helander et al.

Your positivity is subjective opinion that I don't share.

 

 

6 hours ago, ranger_syntax said:

 

As pointed out elsewhere the act of managing expectations has zero purpose when dealing with football supporters. We will be happy if we win and angry if we lose. The idea that this will change if only we had some 'communication' is a very silly fairy story.

Supporters appreciate being told the truth. They can take on board narratives which might later be used to rationalise hard times. Obviously that doesn't cover everyone.

 

An example being the arrival of Gerrard and 'Stop the 10', which gave him three years.....opposed to Warburton's first attempt at the top flight being widely associated with 55.

 

 

6 hours ago, ranger_syntax said:

 

Finally he makes a bizarre plea for leadership. In my estimation leadership has little to do with acting on the endless stream of irrational complaints that will come from any support. Again it is impossible to take stuff like this seriously. Almost every time that an opportunity to take responsibility emerges, in the form of shares, you will hear little above the cacophony of excuses.

Real (competent) leadership will result in less irrational complaints.

 

 

 

Fine, disagree with what I say but comments like can't take it seriously, fairy story and bizarre just make you look a bit silly, IMO.

 

Edited November 29, 2022 by buster.

[ranger_syntax 4,321]

29 minutes ago, buster. said:

Real (competent) leadership will result in less irrational complaints.

It is as if you have never encountered a single football supporter in your entire life.