CammyF 8,093 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said: I'd say most posters on this thread have covered one or two of the same things. It's what the majority of Bears think and also how the neutral observers (noted when reading foreign articles) and our enemies see us: Protestant and British. Some Bears don't want to be associated with these two things, others are just a bit uncomfortable with it but most are quite proud of it. I'm a church going Presbyterian who is proud to be Scottish and British who supports Rangers. To me these aren't necessarily linked to others they will be linked. I'm not afraid to champion all of the above, but they are my personal opinions which I chose not to "force" on others. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger_syntax 4,322 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 People find it difficult because it is painful to accept that Rangers is a modern football club like any other. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger_syntax 4,322 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 2 hours ago, CammyF said: We should and are a "broad church" and the "identity" will change generation after generation. I guess we can rule out tradition then. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 8,093 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 minute ago, ranger_syntax said: I guess we can rule out tradition then. No, if you read my replies further back, traditions should be embraced and continued. Not mutually exclusive. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 15,293 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, ranger_syntax said: People find it difficult because it is painful to accept that Rangers is a modern football club like any other. A bit, aye. If we maintained some of Struth's philosophies, I doubt we could compete nowadays. It's the same as a lot of things, you pick the best bits, ignore the ones that aren't beneficial and try to stay relevant/competitive. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty 2,025 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Hasn’t the club already defined our brand in a way that captures the diversity of motivations within our support… 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 2 hours ago, stewarty said: Hasn’t the club already defined our brand in a way that captures the diversity of motivations within our support… Is that what you believe defines Rangers? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger_syntax 4,322 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 10 hours ago, CammyF said: But each supporter will have a different answer, defining characteristics will be different between supporter to supporter. To me it's the charity work the club undertakes, to someone else it'll be the links to loyalism and royalism, to someone else it'll be links to Union Bears or ICF and fighting fans from other clubs, for someone else it will be family tradition. There are endless answers, not just one. All legitimate answers and all personal to each fan. If your brand can be anything then it is nothing. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 8,093 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 hour ago, ranger_syntax said: If your brand can be anything then it is nothing. Incorrect. It's a football club and means many things to many people which doesn't take away from "the brand" (which no one can get correct anyway apparently so it doesn't really matter). 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 15,293 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 8 hours ago, stewarty said: Hasn’t the club already defined our brand in a way that captures the diversity of motivations within our support… See when I side the club ticks the boxes... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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