ian1964 10,723 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Just now, rbr said: Well if your a realist you must realise we should be able to do the basics . 🤣 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbr 1,256 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, ian1964 said: 🤣 What age are you 10 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 8,089 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, gisabeer said: No in my opinion our manager is the problem. Unbelievable that bit part players walk into the team. Tillman and Davis were two shocking inclusions in that side tonight. A year on and gio doesn't know what his best team is. Liverpool or not I want a manager who thinks he could win the game tonight. Gio is a shrinking violet. We have a manager without a spine. Wasn't a shrinking violet when we destroyed Dortmund away last season. We are outclassed at this level and quicker we understand and accept that, the better. We've punched above our weight for 2 or 3 years in Europe, starting with SG and continued with Gio last season and this season by qualifying for the CL. Wouldn't matter who our manager was, it would be same outcome. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,723 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Just now, rbr said: What age are you 10 Can't help finding you very funny, sorry for the 🤣. You obviously have the football knowledge of a ten year old, which I find funny 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 8,562 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Gentlemen - enough of the handbags, please. Go to bed if you can't ignore each other. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,723 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, CammyF said: Wasn't a shrinking violet when we destroyed Dortmund away last season. We are outclassed at this level and quicker we understand and accept that, the better. We've punched above our weight for 2 or 3 years in Europe, starting with SG and continued with Gio last season and this season by qualifying for the CL. Wouldn't matter who our manager was, it would be same outcome. Quite simply put and succinct 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 5,186 Posted October 4, 2022 Author Share Posted October 4, 2022 The bulk of this team peaked a while ago and it shows. Put that together with the most difficult group we have ever been in and you're always going to be struggling. Our next away game in the CL is against Napoli, a team who scored TEN against Liverpool (4) and Ajax (6) in the same ground. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Frankie 8,562 Posted October 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2022 Ultimately well beaten as Liverpool eased off in the 2nd half. The usual caveats over resources aside, we didn't really offer any decent quality on the ball until far too late in the game. You can play better teams but you can't afford to be so poor on the ball. Not good enough. Obviously there were a few exceptions to that. McGregor was excellent, Goldson was largely solid whilst Matondo and Sakala provided a work-rate and threat that was missing previously. However, we're clearly well short overall and that goes further than a few bad passes. Before bed, our season won't be defined by dropping out the CL group stage. However, the manager really needs to find a system and an XI that provides a lot more consistency and quality domestically and in Europe. As it stands I'm not seeing much progress but no white flag yet. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbr 1,256 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Just now, CammyF said: Wasn't a shrinking violet when we destroyed Dortmund away last season. We are outclassed at this level and quicker we understand and accept that, the better. We've punched above our weight for 2 or 3 years in Europe, starting with SG and continued with Gio last season and this season by qualifying for the CL. Wouldn't matter who our manager was, it would be same outcome. I agree with everything you just said, we have simply not strengthened in midfield for years now , free transfers , loans etc etc , you simply can't compete at this level with that type of player. However you can press , tackle , pass , none of which we did tonight . 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevermind 159 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Massive performance from McGregor tonight. A little off topic here but I had a conversation with a Jambo about 3 weeks ago who was utterly convinced Craig Gordon has always been a better keeper than him. Tonight, at 40. Makes you realise just how brilliant he was in his prime. I always feel for keepers who concede on nights like this. He was on form. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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