ranger_syntax 3,926 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Scott7 said: Cups being irrelevant, does that mean Rangers will win the league or be assured of a comfortable second place? Win. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger_syntax 3,926 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Uilleam said: If the manager will not change, will Board change the manager? Something has to give. No. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uilleam 5,618 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 2 hours ago, ranger_syntax said: No. Entropy, entropy, they've all got it, entropy. And I was going to offer them that old drawing board in the garage. (Pro bono Populi.) We have a manager who looks increasingly unlikely to progress the team, and, you say, a board which is unlikely to progress that manager through the door. A lose-lose situation, which will end in departures, recrimination, and, crucially, the next window being -what?- 10 weeks away, with valuable time lost. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malangsob 1,238 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Regarding Champions League. League performances, and results are improving. Nearly EVERYONE on this board clearly stated that domestic success was their priority. Many of which also stated that simply making the CL was a triumph. We are two points out of first, and have defeated league competition more thoroughly by the week. We have yet to be eliminated from any domestic cup competitions. At any point last night there was easily $100M in Liverpool talent on that pitch. 20M, 30M, 50M players are valuated as such because they are world class talents. There is no way in HELL that GvB's employment should be in question at this stage. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacK1950 2,271 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 40 minutes ago, Malangsob said: There is no way in HELL that GvB's employment should be in question at this stage. I have not yet decried him at any time but last night was poor from him in second half subs IMO. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 9,782 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 An article from the time of GvB's appointment: WITH Giovanni van Bronckhorst confirmed as the new Rangers manager, excitement is through the roof amongst the Ibrox faithful following the return of their idol. The Dutchman enjoyed success as a manager at Feyenoord where he won the Eredivisie in 2017, the first time the title returned to Rotterdam in 18 years. He also claimed two Dutch Cups and two Dutch Super Cups during his four-year stint at De Kuip before an unsuccessful Covid-interrupted spell in China. We talked to Johan Brinkel from the popular Feyenoord supporters podcast Kein Geloel for an in-depth insight into what a Giovanni van Bronckhorst Rangers team may look like and what he will bring to Ibrox. His Feyenoord legacy “He’s regarded as a well-mannered and a good coach, we really like him. He’s such a nice guy and we’re hoping he’ll do well at Ibrox. “The results were very good at Feyenoord, we won the league for the first time in 18 years in 2017, he’s won the KNVB Cup twice, won the Super Cup twice so looking at just trophy-wise he was our most successful coach ever. "If you look at the football, that’s the big negative side. It was very predictable, not always as fun as we’d hoped. "He’s quite conservative as a coach but I think he’s good at managing guys, he doesn’t mind benching a big star if it’s necessary for the team.” Taking over and seeking help from a former Rangers boss “It’s quite funny because the year before he was appointed to be the head coach, he was assistant for two years before that under Ronald Koeman. We all thought the other assistant was going to be the head coach but Feyenoord decided van Bronckhorst was going to be the man so it was a big surprise when he was appointed. "When he took over, in the first part of the season he did really well. I think we were top of the league and we were thinking we could go for the title but after the winter break we collapsed so badly". "We lost seven times in a row which was a record for Feyenoord, we never did that before. “Dick Advocaat was called in to help Giovanni because our board thought that maybe van Bronckhorst was inexperienced and that he needs some help from a seasoned coach who knows how to do it when you lose so many games. “I think that helped him as at the end of the season in 2016 he won most of the matches and basically he went from that moment forward. “We got a new striker, Nicolai Jorgensen from Denmark, we got a new goalie because our first choice goalie was injured and basically everything clicked. “I still don’t think we had the best team in Holland that season but of all the players we had, around 14/15 players who all played, they outperformed on their regular skill. “Guys that were decent became excellent so we had an excellent season in which from the first day till the last day, we were top of the table and of course Gio is part of that.” Style of play "He was our coach for four years, in those four years I only remember that he played a different system once. “That was in the Champions League when we were facing Manchester City that he decided to play five defenders instead of four but it didn’t help because we lost 4-0. "I don’t recall any other games that he was playing a different system. He really likes to play a 4-3-3. "When we talk about van Bronckhorst we always say ‘The Horseshoe’ because what he always did, that irritated fans so badly, was the left-back played it to the centre back, the centre back played it to the other centre back and the centre back played it to the right back and then the other way around so it was quite predictable. “Teams figured out if you basically stopped our midfielders from being part of the game, Feyenoord doesn’t know what to do. Even though we had better teams from 2017 onwards, we didn’t become champions anymore, we didn’t play a role in the championship whatsoever. We won the cup in 2018 but the best season was the 2016-17 season when we became champions. “We sold a couple of guys and the guys we got in weren’t that good so the money we spent was not well spent. They basically stopped developing and got worse so he never replicated that fantastic magic season in 2017.” On leaving Feyenoord “I think most of the fans were quite happy when he left. “Four years in football is a long time so we do like the fact that he wasn’t fired, he left through the front door. “Everybody said, ‘Ok, we respect you, so let’s finish this together’, even though, especially in his last season the football was terrible and the performances weren’t good. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 14,142 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Malangsob said: There is no way in HELL that GvB's employment should be in question at this stage. Humped twice at the Piggery. Terrible (general) away record. Humped in Amsterdam. The post-match interview in Amsterdam. Worst ever result Euro at Ibrox. Can't beat Celtc in the league. That's some pretty concerning stuff, all in less than one calendar year. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 7,128 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 The question is who replaces Gio. A club in a footballing backwater, no transfer budget, uncertainty around the boardroom, players confidence shot. Can look at it two ways, - someone may see turning us around as the challenge they need to get back in shop window for a job in better league. Or - no one is gonna touch us with a barge-pole. Is there another Stevie Gerrard hiding out there somehwere? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenny3k 545 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 25 minutes ago, CammyF said: The question is who replaces Gio. A club in a footballing backwater, no transfer budget, uncertainty around the boardroom, players confidence shot. Can look at it two ways, - someone may see turning us around as the challenge they need to get back in shop window for a job in better league. Or - no one is gonna touch us with a barge-pole. Is there another Stevie Gerrard hiding out there somehwere? Well, he'll be out of a job soon... whereas Mr. Beale is currently sitting joint top of the Championship 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 7,128 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, lenny3k said: Well, he'll be out of a job soon... whereas Mr. Beale is currently sitting joint top of the Championship But who takes his place? What decent manager would come to us knowing they will have no transfer budget to revive the squad, current boardroom changes and uncertainty? Where are we getting the money to pay-off Gio and has backroom staff? Or to pay compensation for a new manager and his staff? Or are we limiting ourselves to people currently out of work? Edited October 13, 2022 by CammyF 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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