GvB future

[Gonzo79 15,293]

6 hours ago, Graeme Ro55 said:

Given a decent squad Gio will be great.

I wonder how many times the yahoos will hump us before some folk wake up. 

[buster. 5,185]

27 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

I wonder how many times the yahoos will hump us before some folk wake up. 

There are various levels of reality to wake up to.

 

- Football on the park

- State of squad (and est. sell-on value

- Football Operation as a whole

- Financial state of play 

 

- Take all of the above for holistic take on where we go from here

 

Better to go back to sleep?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Gonzo79 15,293]

We want to be winning on the pitch, first and foremost. 

[ian1964 10,723]

I think this squad has peaked, we have been struggling for too long with dull, boring football. We need fresh faces and that can't happen until January, if the club has any spare cash!!, so we will have to carry on with watching matches through our fingers for a while yet!.

[buster. 5,185]

33 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

We want to be winning on the pitch, first and foremost. 

Yes, but perhaps for stability for the club, that is the wrong way round (everything at once is extremely difficult). Obviously the fans wouldn't agree.

 

Over the years, what we have tended to do is throw money at on-field problems. This often works (to varying degrees) but it is also often only short term fixes that don't sort out fault lines (eg. player trading model). They invariably have brought financial problems not much further down the line.

 

Rinse and repeat.

 

What the current setup is trying to do is solve the above.

 

But we have now hit a large bump in the road and the steering appears fcuked.

[Rousseau 10,605]

A lot of successful teams play the 3-4-2-1 now; Atalanta, PSG, Potter's Brighton and Chelsea, Nagelsmann etc. 

 

I think it would work well for us; it would get the most out of Sands, our defensive central midfielders and our wingers (Sakala, Wright, Matondo, etc.): 

 

Colak/Morelos

 

Matondo/Kent - Sakala/Wright/Hagi

 

Yilmaz - Lundstram/Kamara - Jack/Tillman - Tavernier

 

King - Goldson - Sands

 

[GK]

 

It's all about versatility nowadays: wingers coming inside or staying wide (Liverpool, Bayern); strikers running in-behind or dropping deep as a false-9, with inside forwards pushing on (Kane and Son, Liverpool); a central midfielder staying deep to dictate (Kimmich), one pushing on if you need more support (Sanchez at PSG); a CB pushing into midfield to create overloads (James at Chelsea, Vogt at Hoffenheim); switching between a back-3 and back-4, with Sands or King play as a FB, with the other FB pushing on (Jose's Roma switch between that often, Potter does this too). 

 

Again: that squad is not bad; it's got versatile players, with decent quality - albeit out of form - and I wouldn't say it's old. 

 

My thinking always goes back to GvB's inability to get the most out of this team. 

[Rousseau 10,605]

1 hour ago, buster. said:

Yes, but perhaps for stability for the club, that is the wrong way round (everything at once is extremely difficult). Obviously the fans wouldn't agree.

 

Over the years, what we have tended to do is throw money at on-field problems. This often works (to varying degrees) but it is also often only short term fixes that don't sort out fault lines (eg. player trading model). They invariably have brought financial problems not much further down the line.

 

Rinse and repeat.

 

What the current setup is trying to do is solve the above.

 

But we have now hit a large bump in the road and the steering appears fcuked.

Your opinions on the team don't make sense: we need stability, but we need to totally gut the team; we need experienced players, but we've 'mismanaged a chronically old and injured squad'; we need youth, but we can't rely on them; we need to spend a lot of money, but we've not got it and never will, etc. ad nauseam. 

[Rousseau 10,605]

8 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

A lot of successful teams play the 3-4-2-1 now; Atalanta, PSG, Potter's Brighton and Chelsea, Nagelsmann etc. 

Beale's using a 3-4-2-1 at QPR, Russell Martin is doing well at Swansea with it, Tomasson at Blackburn.

 

Three out of the top 4 in the Championship. 

 

Our manager is useless. 

[buster. 5,185]

7 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

Your opinions on the team don't make sense: we need stability, but we need to totally gut the team; we need experienced players, but we've 'mismanaged a chronically old and injured squad'; we need youth, but we can't rely on them; we need to spend a lot of money, but we've not got it and never will, etc. ad nauseam. 

The club needs stability.

 

Try harder

[Gonzo79 15,293]

10 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

Your opinions on the team don't make sense: we need stability, but we need to totally gut the team; we need experienced players, but we've 'mismanaged a chronically old and injured squad'; we need youth, but we can't rely on them; we need to spend a lot of money, but we've not got it and never will, etc. ad nauseam. 

Talking a lot leads to contradictions and tying yourself in knots.  

 

Having a better manager will immediately result in improved performances.  It really is that simple.  

 

I think other changes are needed but that'll take longer/more thought.  

Edited October 29, 2022 by Gonzo79