Gonzo79 15,294 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 34 minutes ago, the gunslinger said: the rules are clear. penalty all day. They've changed the handball rules a couple of times recently. I don't think the rules are clear - it's open to interpretation. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 50 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said: They've changed the handball rules a couple of times recently. I don't think the rules are clear - it's open to interpretation. maybe not to you but you aren't a ref. The rules are clear here it was a pen. A handball should not be awarded if a player is ruled to have handled the ball accidentally. This refers to a player either attempting to protect himself from injury, for example by placing the hands in front of the face and then being hit by the ball, or a player being hit on the arm by the ball without moving towards the ball and without being able to move out of the way. An example might be a snap shot hitting the arm of a defender at point-blank range. However, if a player’s arm is in an unnatural position, for example outstretched or above their head, then a foul should be awarded whether accidental or not. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 15,294 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Not really. I don't think his arm was in an unnatural position (neither do quite a few of the commentators, albeit most of them aren't exactly Bear friendly). 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascender 352 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 I wasn't sure if Madden wasn't in a position to see the first one as the replays weren't great, but I'd have thought the linesman should have seen it. The defender's arm wasn't flush with his side, it was slightly away from it - but the ball did travel a bit at pace so maybe the argument is he should have had time to try and remove it? The Sakala tug was even worse for me - I spotted it in real time and wondered why Sky weren't talking about it. It took them a while to notice it.. And while we're on the subject, HTF are Crocker and Walker still pundits? Sky's coverage is truly awful, but like other things, we just seem to have to put up with whatever shit offer is on the table to cover/sponsor our league. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 45 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said: Not really. I don't think his arm was in an unnatural position (neither do quite a few of the commentators, albeit most of them aren't exactly Bear friendly). fortunately there is a description of an unnatural position for referees to follow. what they think is irrelevant. I have posted it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 15,294 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, the gunslinger said: what they think is irrelevant. Evidently not. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said: Evidently not. it is relevant to whether it is a penalty. Regardless of their failure to do their job. unnatural is clearly defined in the rules and this was unnatural as per the rules. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 15,294 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 5 hours ago, the gunslinger said: unnatural is clearly defined in the rules and this was unnatural as per the rules. https://www.premierleague.com/news/2204759 "An arm extended away from the body makes that body bigger, in an unnatural position," explains Mike Riley, Managing Director of Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL), the referees' body. "If the ball strikes that arm, particularly if it is blocking a shot on goal, there is a greater likelihood we will penalise that." Mike Riley doesn't think it's that clear. As I said, it's open to interpretation. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 3,749 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Talk that there will be a vote on VAR soon, all 42 clubs get a vote ... and if it happens it will be implemented in the World Cup break next season. Do find the errors in that on your own, but make sure you don`t fall off your chair laughing ... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 25 minutes ago, der Berliner said: Talk that there will be a vote on VAR soon, all 42 clubs get a vote ... and if it happens it will be implemented in the World Cup break next season. Do find the errors in that on your own, but make sure you don`t fall off your chair laughing ... All 42 clubs getting a vote ffs. There really is no bottom to this barrel. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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