match thread (image) [FT] Hibernian 0 - 1 Rangers (Roofe 85pen)

[the gunslinger 3,366]

2 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Off course we're miles off being a CL team. Where have you been since 2011/2012? Oh and for the record, we've been miles of being a CL team since 1992 with 1 or 2 exceptions. 

 

How are we to suddenly turn into a team that constantly gets access to CL money? Winning the league of course, so being top of the SPFL is an indication as if we don't win the league, we don't get to CL - quite simple really. 

 

Have you looked at how our European coefficient has increased over the last 3 or 4 years? If it wasn't for our victories and runs in Europa League, we wouldn't be gaining automatic qualification to the CL group stages and the £30M that would guarantee us. 

 

Some Rangers fans do need a reality check. Maybe go on Rangers Archives and watch is struggle in the lower leagues, watch Motherwell embarrass us home and away in the play off final, watch Raith Rovers beat us in the Ratners Cup Final (or whatever it was called). 

 

Then look at where we are now despite having no money to spend - it's night and fucking day.

 

 

 

CL has moved on too. 

 

half the teams these days have 1 player who would cost as much as our whole team. 

[CammyF 8,079]

14 minutes ago, the gunslinger said:

CL has moved on too. 

 

half the teams these days have 1 player who would cost as much as our whole team. 

Yup, and some of our fans expect us just to magically win every game we play 4 or 5 nil no matter who it is against. If we don't, we're a "pub team" or players are terrible and past it. 

 

I had the pleasure or watching Gazza and Laudrup who would have gotten in most CL teams, yet even with them we were constantly hammered in the CL. 

Edited December 3, 2021 by CammyF

[the gunslinger 3,366]

8 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Yup, and some of our fans expect us just to magically win every game we play 4 or 5 nil no matter who it is against. If we don't, we're a "pub team" or players are terrible and past it. 

 

I had the pleasure or watching Gazza and Laudrup who would have gotten in most CL teams, yet even with them we were constantly hammered in the CL. 

That shouldn't have been happening then but now things are very different. 

[CammyF 8,079]

3rd December 2014 - Alloa Athletic 3 v 2 Rangers. 55 and European football felt a lifetime away after that game. 

 

Puts a 1-0 away win at Easter Road into perspective.

[the gunslinger 3,366]

10 minutes ago, CammyF said:

3rd December 2014 - Alloa Athletic 3 v 2 Rangers. 55 and European football felt a lifetime away after that game. 

 

Puts a 1-0 away win at Easter Road into perspective.

It really does. Ally embarrassed us down the leagues for me. 

[CammyF 8,079]

10 minutes ago, the gunslinger said:

It really does. Ally embarrassed us down the leagues for me. 

Huge missed opportunity. We should have appointed a SG type manager back then who'd have taken us through the league's whilst building a squad. Instead we signed players who'd struggle to get a game in the juniors. 

 

Ally was and still is a hero but we were too loyal to him back then. He was never management material. 

 

Let's not forget and this is no exaggeration, our enemies tried to kill us off back then. They failed, but we took a hell of a kicking. 

 

We have one team who had free access to a decades worth of CL money, sponsorship etc, yet somehow we have managed to overtake them and won 55.

 

A miracle really, stuff of folklore but still not good enough for some fans. 

[the gunslinger 3,366]

4 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Huge missed opportunity. We should have appointed a SG type manager back then who'd have taken us through the league's whilst building a squad. Instead we signed players who'd struggle to get a game in the juniors. 

 

Ally was and still is a hero but we were too loyal to him back then. He was never management material. 

 

Let's not forget and this is no exaggeration, our enemies tried to kill us off back then. They failed, but we took a hell of a kicking. 

 

We have one team who had free access to a decades worth of CL money, sponsorship etc, yet somehow we have managed to overtake them and won 55.

 

A miracle really, stuff of folklore but still not good enough for some fans. 

Spot on mate. 

 

we should have hovered up all the young talent and played them with a manager playing the right way. 

 

the Spivs couldn't get rid of Ally for fear and didn't care for us long term. 

[gisabeer 409]

1 hour ago, CammyF said:

Off course we're miles off being a CL team. Where have you been since 2011/2012? Oh and for the record, we've been miles of being a CL team since 1992/1993 with 1 or 2 exceptions. 

 

How are we to suddenly turn into a team that constantly gets access to CL money? Winning the league of course, so being top of the SPFL is an indication as if we don't win the league, we don't get to CL - quite simple really. 

 

Have you looked at how our European coefficient has increased over the last 3 or 4 years? If it wasn't for our victories and runs in Europa League, we wouldn't be gaining automatic qualification to the CL group stages and the £30M that would guarantee us. 

 

Some Rangers fans do need a reality check. Maybe go on Rangers Archives and watch is struggle in the lower leagues, watch Motherwell embarrass us home and away in the play off final, watch Raith Rovers beat us in the Ratners Cup Final (or whatever it was called). 

 

Then look at where we are now despite having no money to spend - it's night and fucking day.

 

 

 

Think we need to let go of the past and look to the future.     That's what I'm doing.   If we continue on the same vein well end up like the scum on the other side of the city.  I dont want that.

[CammyF 8,079]

24 minutes ago, gisabeer said:

Think we need to let go of the past and look to the future.     That's what I'm doing.   If we continue on the same vein well end up like the scum on the other side of the city.  I dont want that.

But it's the past that is hindering and impacting our future.  It's a minor miracle that we've gotten back to the top on Scottish Football. 

 

We have had 1 shot at CL and we were well short. That wasn't a surprise to me. We held our own in Europa League but fell short when we played "top tier" opponents. This is nothing new, we've fallen short in Europe for decades with a few notable exceptions. 

 

There is no magic wand, no easy fix, we have to win the league to have best opportunities to get access to the CL money so we have to concentrate domestically first and foremost. 

 

We simply can't win every game 5 or 6 nil, playing expansive football, it just didn't happen. 

 

Said after the game on Wednesday I would happily take 1-0 wins in every game between now and end if season. Deep down, we all would.

[Bill 13,717]

1 hour ago, CammyF said:

Huge missed opportunity. We should have appointed a SG type manager back then

We weren't we back then