ranger_syntax 4,422 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) A football club should be allowed to make a speculative investment and risk the consequences. Efforts to limit spending are doomed to failure and completely miss the general problem. If some teams are too rich to overcome then rather than limit spending they should limit what teams can spend money on. For example the loan system is used by big clubs to prevent smaller clubs profiting from player development. Big clubs hoard talented youth players meaning that small clubs develop them but don't get to sell them on. The answer is to limit how many players a club can loan out at one time. Talented youth players would then find smaller clubs to play for before earning the small club a transfer fee on departure. Another example is youth teams playing in lower divisions. This allows big clubs to spend money more efficiently and develop youth players. Again this eliminates another reason for a young player to go to a small club and earn them a transfer fee. Smaller clubs don't have enough money to run an equivalent youth team and won't be able to develop young players in the same way. I'm pretty sure that there are many more examples that would actually improve the competitiveness of football. U.E.F.A. only suggest this to distract fans. This is presumably the same U.E.F.A. that structures European competitions in a way that ensures sponsorship money is funnelled into the big clubs. Edited August 22, 2021 by ranger_syntax 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biblio 158 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ranger_syntax said: I never understand why principle is so ignorant of practice. It is a rubbish idea in both principle and practice. If it is applied properly it is much better than spending more than you can afford on vanity projects. Edited August 22, 2021 by Biblio Changed my mind 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger_syntax 4,422 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Biblio said: Of course, spending more than you can afford and encouraging others to do so is wonderful, isn't it? The market corrects this behaviour rather quickly. If a bureaucrat is getting involved then you can rest assured that the 'problem' is not being solved. Another problem is being created. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo 7,184 Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 I see the agent for Halland was asking Chelsea to pay him a basic of £820,000 per week, a nice bit of pay if you get it , 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaBoy 2,448 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 2 hours ago, compo said: I see the agent for Halland was asking Chelsea to pay him a basic of £820,000 per week, a nice bit of pay if you get it , I don't think anyone would pay that after Messi. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 On 22/08/2021 at 14:44, ranger_syntax said: A football club should be allowed to make a speculative investment and risk the consequences. Efforts to limit spending are doomed to failure and completely miss the general problem. If some teams are too rich to overcome then rather than limit spending they should limit what teams can spend money on. Agreed. The problem of extreme inequality isn't created by clubs spending money but by UEFA rewarding excess spending with excess prize money. The allocation of money within football is absurdly biased in favour of a very small number of countries and their 'top' clubs. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger_syntax 4,422 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Bill said: Agreed. The problem of extreme inequality isn't created by clubs spending money but by UEFA rewarding excess spending with excess prize money. The allocation of money within football is absurdly biased in favour of a very small number of countries and their 'top' clubs. Yes, we can never avoid the fact that the best teams need to get a financial reward. We most certainly should avoid structuring football to ensure that the same teams are always rewarded. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaBoy 2,448 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) On 25/08/2021 at 11:18, compo said: I see the agent for Halland was asking Chelsea to pay him a basic of £820,000 per week, a nice bit of pay if you get it , Just seen that it is claimed by German paper Bild that the agent was asking for a 34m agents fee on top of wages of £820k a week and a £150m transfer fee so the total package was over £275million. Crazy and greedy, no wonder it was turned down as the release clause in his contract comes up next summer for £65m. Edited August 26, 2021 by ChelseaBoy update data 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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