match thread (image) [FT] Rangers 1 (Morelos 18) - 2 Malmo

[ranger_syntax 4,330]

32 minutes ago, gisabeer said:

Ive never been a fan of the 4 3 3 formation.   It got us so far in the Europa league but as soon as you come up against a certain level of opposition weve came unstuck.  Leverkusen schooled us ,  sparta prague mugged us and again tonight we got rolled over.  This season weve been weve been found out .   Livingston for large parts of the game contained us very easily forcing us out wide and soaking up the crosses.  A pattern which was very evident against Dundee utd and in both ties against malmo.   Were very predictable.   You can read us like a bloody book.  Is it too much to ask for a flexability from time to time?   Teams are shutting us down very easily and if we dont wisen up fast we will pay a heavy price.[sic]

Explain why you think 433 causes us to be forced out wide.

 

Explain why your preferred alternative is not vulnerable in the same way.

Edited August 10, 2021 by ranger_syntax

[Gonzo79 15,294]

Just back from the match.

 

We certainly look a bit out of sorts.  The entire defence was poor.  Goldson has reverted back to panic mode and Tav and Barisic are being found out by solid defenders.  I though Davis was our best player tonight.  Aribo tried but Arfield, Wright and Kent didn't do much.  Morelos was his usual self (good in spells).  

 

We need to learn to play through the middle more.  

Edited August 10, 2021 by Gonzo79

[der Berliner 3,749]

We hit the same road of 4-3-3 with Warburton and how much was "make Plan A better" line laughed at. Once the opposition suss out the players in their positions, they adapt. We didn`t learn that in SG`s first season, when we fell away after the turn of the year. It was the same in the year of the vote, when we managed to go 13 points behind within 8 eight weeks or the like. Last season worked as Morelos and Roofe brought a new dimension with their interplay, plus Hagi, Kent and Co. all performing on a consistently good level. Primarily though, we didn`t shed too many goals, especially in those close affairs when we failed to break down the trench-diggers. And we had either Jack or Kamara to do the hard yards and they cleared much before it became a danger.

 

While our midfield-to-front crew did their usual stuff, to an extent at least, our defence was jittery ever since Livingston and Real. That`s three games on the trott that we have lost, 2 for farcical defending ... by the "usual suspects". Tonight Malmö were as clinical as we were in Europe these last few seasons, making the best of the opportunities that presented themselves. Kudos to them.

 

What I expect for Ross County is Roofe, Sakala and Morelos up front, Wright and Hagi in behind. And maybe a start for Patterson, Helander and Simpson.  Chuck that 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 for a while - not least against the lesser lights of the Premiership - and go back to basics.

 

EDIT: We actually play Dunfermline this Friday, an even greater opportunity for freshen things up ... and learn from that.

 

EDIT 2: Whoever thought up the third kit and whoever made us wearing it tonight should be gelded. What a pain ...

Edited August 10, 2021 by der Berliner

[the gunslinger 3,366]

9 hours ago, Bill said:

I ask myself how Walter Smith would handle a start to the season like this? 

no one more experienced in doing so......

[the gunslinger 3,366]

7 hours ago, Gonzo79 said:

Just back from the match.

 

We certainly look a bit out of sorts.  The entire defence was poor.  Goldson has reverted back to panic mode and Tav and Barisic are being found out by solid defenders.  I though Davis was our best player tonight.  Aribo tried but Arfield, Wright and Kent didn't do much.  Morelos was his usual self (good in spells).  

 

We need to learn to play through the middle more.  

aribo disappeared second half and his first touch is certainly interesting.  

[the gunslinger 3,366]

8 hours ago, ranger_syntax said:

Explain the shortcomings of 433.

 

Then explain what problems your preferred alternative would solve.

he is bored of it. 

[RANGERRAB 3,680]

8 hours ago, ranger_syntax said:

Explain the shortcomings of 433.

 

Then explain what problems your preferred alternative would solve.

The shortcomings of our 4-3-3 is we’re playing only one recognised striker

[DMAA 3,658]

8 hours ago, ranger_syntax said:

The Malmo forwards are fast.

 

I might have mentioned this before but Helander is very slow.

He is a much better defender than Balogun though and you don’t see him giving away goals like Balogun did last night. The stats show that Helander is our best traditional defender too, we always look vulnerable without IMO. 

[the gunslinger 3,366]

i never see hellander get out paced. 

 

quite the opposite in fact. 

[Bill 13,717]

It’s facile to keep spouting about 4-3-3. We could have played any formation last night but if players can’t control the ball, pass accurately or put in a decent cross then the formation is the least of our worries. We lost to Malmö because too many in the team let themselves and the club down. Fullbacks were dreadful, central defenders were a bombscare, etc etc. It’s about players, not formations.