compo 7,185 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I think the day's coming when the heading of the football is going to be outlawed the brain damage people are on the rise and are gaining more and more attention to their claims yes it wont be long to heading is banned or limited then it will be something next like tackling that will come under scrutiny . 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil's advocaat 1,617 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I can't see tackling coming under scrutiny*, as it's obviously not contributing to premature Neurological decay in later life, like heading does. * Though it'll be interesting to see where they go with this in Rugby. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tin Man 80 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 You don’t really see our players tackling much nowadays, not in it’s proper form anyway. It’s all about staying on their feet and snapping at the heels of the opponent. Think heading could get banned to some extent but I can’t see it being completely phased out. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Much as I regret the change, I'm afraid its now inevitable heading will be removed from the game. Either had or protective headgear of some kind will become mandatory. You can't have loads of people with attributable demential ffs. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil's advocaat 1,617 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Headgear would make no difference, hence why it's never been adopted above amateur level in boxing, it's all about the force not the impact, as the force causes the brain trauma ie. shaking inside the skull. And the arguments about the older heavier ball are moot too, as the force of a modern ball is the same in reality - Force=Mass x Acceleration - aye newer balls are much lighter, but they're coming at you a hell of a lot quicker. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Devil's advocaat said: it's all about the force not the impact The difference between force and impact being what exactly? I'm clearly not the engineer you are but I intuitively see a difference between being struck on the head by a one kg steel hammer and a one kg sponge rubber hammer, both travelling at the same speed. If by "impact" you mean the speed of transfer of momentum then I don't see why headgear would make no difference. Motor cyclists seem to derive some benefit from this principle. I might even contend that it's actually all about the impact, not the force. No? Edited November 19, 2020 by Bill 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil's advocaat 1,617 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Bill said: The difference between force and impact being what exactly? I'm clearly not the engineer you are but I intuitively see a difference between being struck on the head by a one kg steel hammer and a one kg sponge rubber hammer, both travelling at the same speed. If by "impact" you mean the speed of transfer of momentum then I don't see why headgear would make no difference. Motor cyclists seem to derive some benefit from this principle. I might even contend that it's actually all about the impact, not the force. No? My bad, poorly worded. The headgear like they use in rugby is to stop cuts from surface impact of bone on bone, same in boxing, to stop cuts from gloves on bone. These would have no benefit in football as the baw doesn't have any of those risks. It's a different ballgame in motor cycles, they are designed to stop head trauma from a one off event, not repeated blows. Edited November 19, 2020 by Devil's advocaat 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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