buster. 4,974 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Scott7 said: An opinion you are entitled to have though I disagree with it. Bill may think otherwise but he’ll shoot your fox if he just leaves it at that. No, not an opinon, ...........I'm talking about a principle with regard to racism and the double standards employed. Which, being dependent on race involved. Edited December 10, 2020 by buster. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scott7 5,666 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 30 minutes ago, buster. said: No, not an opinon, ...........I'm talking about a principle with regard to racism and the double standards employed. Which, being dependent on race involved. Being anti-racist is principled. Your interpretation of what Bill says is opinion. If Bill declines to comment the kite falls from the sky. If you’re looking for a real fight 26th said something jolly - geddit? - nasty about RM in another thread. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexscottislegend 2,222 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 14 hours ago, Gonzo79 said: I admit what happened in Paris was truly horrifying. Thoughts and prayers to all those affected. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/12/09/not-racist-describe-someone-black-says-john-barnes/ 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 14,536 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 minute ago, alexscottislegend said: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/12/09/not-racist-describe-someone-black-says-john-barnes/ Seems Romanians are being held to Western standards, in usage of their own terminology. A tad unfair. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexscottislegend 2,222 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said: Seems Romanians are being held to Western standards, in usage of their own terminology. A tad unfair. We don't know the inside story of Paris but I think the player or coach was questioning why the official felt it necessary to say 'that black player'. Would he have said,'that white guy'? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 4,974 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Scott7 said: Being anti-racist is principled. Your interpretation of what Bill says is opinion. If Bill declines to comment the kite falls from the sky. If you’re looking for a real fight 26th said something jolly - geddit? - nasty about RM in another thread. No it isn't. The blatant double standards he employs on some of his passionate principles within debates on (anti) racism are dependent on race involved ie. lets say two different opinions for the same circumstance but the difference always being dependent on race and it always being the same race on either side of the contradiction. For example, the heavy politicising of anti-racism protests for other gain/advantage. He was passionately against such a thing on one type of anti-racism thread but spent a year or so, doing it himself within a different type of anti-racism. With matizes, I think (opinion) he's broadly right with regard to the politicising but that the broad principle applies to both. You can't credibily call that principle out in one way and then practise the polar opposite in another.. Edited December 10, 2020 by buster. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 5,199 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 5 hours ago, buster. said: No it isn't. The blatant double standards he employs on some of his passionate principles within debates on (anti) racism are dependent on race involved ie. lets say two different opinions for the same circumstance but the difference always being dependent on race and it always being the same race on either side of the contradiction. For example, the heavy politicising of anti-racism protests for other gain/advantage. He was passionately against such a thing on one type of anti-racism thread but spent a year or so, doing it himself within a different type of anti-racism. With matizes, I think (opinion) he's broadly right with regard to the politicising but that the broad principle applies to both. You can't credibily call that principle out in one way and then practise the polar opposite in another.. Yes, it is. It is YOUR opinion based on YOUR observations of Bill and his postings. Beyond me that you can defend it as anything other than your opinion. But there we have it. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 4,974 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, craig said: Yes, it is. It is YOUR opinion based on YOUR observations of Bill and his postings. Beyond me that you can defend it as anything other than your opinion. But there we have it. No, it isn't. You just don't get it or don't want to get it. It's clear For example, the heavy politicising of anti-racism protests for other gains/advantage. He was passionately against such a thing on one type of anti-racism thread but spent a year or so, doing exactly that within a different type of anti-racism. The opinion part is his belief but what I refer to is the blatant contradiction. in the application of said principle, based on race. To strongly and loudly preach against something whilst practicing it yourself is to damage any credibility you have to do the preaching. It can make you look a bit of a fool or in this particular thread, it helps show Bill up for what he is. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 14,536 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 6 hours ago, alexscottislegend said: We don't know the inside story of Paris but I think the player or coach was questioning why the official felt it necessary to say 'that black player'. Would he have said,'that white guy'? Mentioning someone's skin colour, as a white man, is a truly despicable thing to do. I suspect the fourth official is in the KKK or a Romanian equivalent. I hope he receives suitable punishment (death penalty or life sentence) and that Demba Ba can recover from this unbelievably horrifying incident. Thoughts and prayers etc. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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