917 191 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Sorry but you’re all wrong (well most of you). Football clubs are vital public assets & should be owned by nobody except the community they serve. If you don’t like it then go and live in Monaco.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,624 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 42 minutes ago, 917 said: Sorry but you’re all wrong (well most of you). Football clubs are vital public assets & should be owned by nobody except the community they serve. If you don’t like it then go and live in Monaco.. If we're owned by the community, where would be now? There wouldn't have been the funding that King at al have provided. There's no way we'd be top of the league. I'm all in favour of fans having a say, but fans having the power to replace directors etc wouldn't work going on the amount of crazy opinions that you see on-line. A great number of people are easily swayed, depending on the forum they're on as well. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
917 191 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Bluedell said: If we're owned by the community, where would be now? There wouldn't have been the funding that King at al have provided. There's no way we'd be top of the league. I'm all in favour of fans having a say, but fans having the power to replace directors etc wouldn't work going on the amount of crazy opinions that you see on-line. A great number of people are easily swayed, depending on the forum they're on as well. We would probably be exactly where we are, as we wouldn’t have needed King & co to bail us out in the first place! There would have been no Craig Whyte, Charles Green & Mike Ashley, and no liquidation. Only difference is we wouldn’t have been waiting 8 years for a major trophy. In any case Dave King doesn’t own Rangers, yet is prepared to put money in. We are actually not far from the community ownership model already. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,624 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 hours ago, 917 said: We would probably be exactly where we are, as we wouldn’t have needed King & co to bail us out in the first place! There would have been no Craig Whyte, Charles Green & Mike Ashley, and no liquidation. Only difference is we wouldn’t have been waiting 8 years for a major trophy. In any case Dave King doesn’t own Rangers, yet is prepared to put money in. We are actually not far from the community ownership model already. King owns a fair percentage and controls even more. Guys like King and Park won't invest without control. 3 guys currently own over 50% between them do hardly a community model. As for us still bring where we are, I guess it depends on your starting point, but we really wouldn't. We wouldn't have won the league at their midden in 99, helicopter Sunday or Manchester in 08, all of which was achieved with large debt which funded the team. From memory, Murray brought in something like £160m into the club. That doesn't come in under a community ownership model. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 It’s really quite touching to see someone think people are going to invest their own wealth in a football club without being able to control the direction and performance of that club. As for football clubs being vital public assets, pure fantasy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
les186 271 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Isn't it about getting rid of people like Craig Whyte who didn't have any money but almost drove our club to extinction? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 6 hours ago, les186 said: Isn't it about getting rid of people like Craig Whyte who didn't have any money but almost drove our club to extinction? There are well used and proven methods for identifying chancers like Whyte before they're allowed to buy any company. Sadly, if the board and shareholders decide they want to sell to a chancer then that is their right. The problem we faced wasn't Craig Whyte, it was David Murray and a boardroom full of gutless lapdogs. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
les186 271 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, Bill said: There are well used and proven methods for identifying chancers like Whyte before they're allowed to buy any company. Sadly, if the board and shareholders decide they want to sell to a chancer then that is their right. The problem we faced wasn't Craig Whyte, it was David Murray and a boardroom full of gutless lapdogs. Well nobody seemed to know or use these proven methods. Whyte was a well known multi-millionaire was he not. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, les186 said: Well nobody seemed to know or use these proven methods. Whyte was a well known multi-millionaire was he not. No, he wasn’t a multi-millionaire and I’m quite sure David Murray knew exactly what Whyte was. I always wondered what Whyte got in return for playing his well-scripted role in Murray’s escape plan. in any case, the Labour proposal is complete tripe 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
les186 271 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bill said: No, he wasn’t a multi-millionaire and I’m quite sure David Murray knew exactly what Whyte was. I always wondered what Whyte got in return for playing his well-scripted role in Murray’s escape plan. in any case, the Labour proposal is complete tripe We all know that now but we were told different at the time. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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