alexscottislegend 2,325 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Erm..why no complaints against Legia for their supporters throwing missiles at our players when taking corners at the same match? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,724 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, alexscottislegend said: Erm..why no complaints against Legia for their supporters throwing missiles at our players when taking corners at the same match? Cos it is just big bad Rangers that FARE are interested in! Separate Entity FC fans showered Cluj players with missiles as well, nothing to see here! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, ian1964 said: Cos it is just big bad Rangers that FARE are interested in! Separate Entity FC fans showered Cluj players with missiles as well, nothing to see here! FARE would not report throwing incidents that would be down to the match officials and the UEFA representatives. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,724 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, pete said: FARE would not report throwing incidents that would be down to the match officials and the UEFA representatives. Oh well that's ok then! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooponthewing 1,139 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 hours ago, ranger_syntax said: You're talking about fans who sing sectarian songs, right? Anything else would be a waste of time and a distraction right now. Eh no, I was referring to UEFA and their Kangaroo court. They way they run their affairs would never stand up. It only takes a legal challenge of their rules to stop that. No right if appeal, selective punishment, employment of organisations with pre-existing agendas and grievances etc, we could go on. The perfect scenario is a wealthy or wealthy group of supporters? If the club do it UEFA have to exclude us, as per their rules. They are trying to expel us anyway so to heck with it. Again for the record, I totally agree with the sectarian shit having to stop. Let’s not confuse the issues; our house needs to get itself in order and the songs have to stop. However, I would like someone or a collective group to drag UEFA through the courts? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, ian1964 said: Oh well that's ok then! Maybe not OK and you may have a point but we cannot blame FARE for everything. The Billy Boys was eradicated for years but a small number started singing it again under the motto "Ah but the tims". Unfortunately it grew until where we are now. We knew it was banned. We only have ourselves to blame. They can only shoot us if we give them the ammunition. It really is that simple. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,724 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, pete said: Maybe not OK and you may have a point but we cannot blame FARE for everything. The Billy Boys was eradicated for years but a small number started singing it again under the motto "Ah but the tims". Unfortunately it grew until where we are now. We knew it was banned. We only have ourselves to blame. They can only shoot us if we give them the ammunition. It really is that simple. Going round in circles here! we all know the songs are banned & should not be sung, we all know some fans need to wise up, however what Rangers song will be next on the banned list? it has been explained clearly the sectarian bigoted anti Rangers group FARE are targeting Rangers, and have been for a long time now. It's far from simple. It is however a starting point. FARE need to be targeted for their anti Rangers stance. Edited August 29, 2019 by ian1964 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMAA 3,658 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 28 minutes ago, ian1964 said: Cos it is just big bad Rangers that FARE are interested in! Separate Entity FC fans showered Cluj players with missiles as well, nothing to see here! I don't know how the timing works with these fines (they took ages to fine us from the St Josephs) but there is no way Celtic will get off with that. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 3,744 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 BTW ... Quote Article 14 Racism, other discriminatory conduct and propaganda 1 Any person under the scope of Article 3 who insults the human dignity of a person or group of persons on whatever grounds, including skin colour, race, religion or ethnic origin, incurs a suspension lasting at least ten matches or a specified period of time, or any other appropriate sanction. 2 If one or more of a member association or club’s supporters engage in the behaviour described in paragraph 1, the member association or club responsible is punished with a minimum of a partial stadium closure. 3 The following disciplinary measures apply in the event of recidivism: - a. a second offence is punished with one match played behind closed doors and a fine of € 50,000; - b. any subsequent offence is punished with more than one match behind closed doors, a stadium closure, the forfeiting of a match, the deduction of points and/or disqualification from the competition. 4 If the circumstances of the case require it, the competent disciplinary body may impose additional disciplinary measures on the member association or club responsible, such as the playing of one or more matches behind closed doors, a stadium closure, the forfeiting of a match, the deduction of points and/or disqualification from the competition. 5 If the match is suspended by the referee because of racist and/or discriminatory conduct, the match may be declared forfeit. 6 The above disciplinary measures may be combined with specific directives aimed at tackling such conduct. LINK - opens PDF file - https://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Regulations/uefaorg/UEFACompDisCases/02/48/23/06/2482306_DOWNLOAD.pdf And while I am at it ... Quote Article 16 Order and security at UEFA competition matches 1 Host clubs and national associations are responsible for order and security both inside and around the stadium before, during and after matches. They are liable for incidents of any kind and may be subject to disciplinary measures and directives unless they can prove that they have not been negligent in any way in the organisation of the match. 2 However, all associations and clubs are liable for the following inappropriate behaviour on the part of their supporters and may be subject to disciplinary measures and directives even if they can prove the absence of any negligence in relation to the organisation of the match: - a. the invasion or attempted invasion of the field of play; - b. the throwing of objects; - c. the lighting of fireworks or any other objects; - d. the use of laser pointers or similar electronic devices; - e. the use of gestures, words, objects or any other means to transmit a provocative message that is not fit for a sports event, particularly provocative messages that are of a political, ideological, religious or offensive nature; - f. acts of damage; - g. causing a disturbance during national anthems; - h. any other lack of order or discipline observed inside or around the stadium LINK above. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post forlanssister 3,114 Posted August 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2019 Whataboutery isn't going to do anything whatsoever to solve the problem. We simply have to get our own house in order otherwise we're totally f*&ked. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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