Petition To Get James Dornan Removed From Anti Sectarian Group

[Bill 13,717]

If they hadn't spent so much on shares they might have been announcing a legal action for defamation and applying some real pressure.

[Walterbear 557]

33 minutes ago, Bluedell said:

Club 1872 statement

 

Dear Member,

On 23rd February, James Dornan MSP, during a Twitter exchange in which he misrepresented the Club 1872 position on unacceptable behaviour, made the false allegation that “Club 1872 abuse me regularly on their website." This statement by Mr Dornan was an outright lie.

Club 1872 has not mentioned him on our website, let alone subjected him to regular “abuse”. We wrote to Mr Dornan, giving him the opportunity to delete his tweet and to make a public apology but we have received no response and no apology has been forthcoming. It is completely unacceptable for an elected representative to make demonstrably false accusations about our organisation or its individual directors, all of whom are volunteers. Mr Dornan’s risible attempts to ‘combat sectarianism’ by smearing groups and individuals, undermines genuine and sincere work against prejudice and discrimination. In doing so he raises questions not only of his competence to be Convenor of the Cross Party Group on Combatting SectarIanism but also of his fitness for public office at any level. We do not believe that Mr Dornan is a fit and proper person to act as convener of that group and we will now write to his colleagues to request his removal. It is incomprehensible that Mr Dornan was able to take up this position in the first place given his selective approach to sectarian issues - including an incident where he posed in front of the flag of a proscribed terrorist organisation. We will also contact Rangers to make them aware of this incident and to urge them to be extremely cautious over Mr Dornan’s publicity seeking, public announcement expressing his wish to meet with them.

Rangers and Club 1872 should always engage with any individual or group seeking to genuinely address issues around unacceptable behaviour. We firmly believe that Mr Dornan does not fall into that bracket.

Now that would contain a good bit of wording for a petition.  

[Scott7 6,011]

56 minutes ago, Bill said:

If they hadn't spent so much on shares they might have been announcing a legal action for defamation and applying some real pressure.

Agreed but there is another way. If 72 are absolutely certain on the facts, as I’m sure they are, they can write to a reputable newspaper if they can fnd one (Scotsman, Herald of several decades back) drawing the editor’s attention to Dornan’s Parliamentary Group creation and its ostensible purpose     and contrast that with his conduct as set out in the statement. They don’t even have to call him a liar. “Failure to state accurately” or similar lawyer’s weasel phrase would do.

 

Complain also to the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee of the Scottish Parliament.

[Bill 13,717]

Just now, Scott7 said:

Agreed but there is another way. If 72 are absolutely certain on the facts, as I’m sure they are, they can write to a reputable newspaper if they can fnd one (Scotsman, Herald of several decades back) drawing the editor’s attention to Dornan’s Parliamentary Group creation and its ostensible purpose     and contrast that with his conduct as set out in the statement. They don’t even have to call him a liar. “Failure to state accurately” or similar lawyer’s weasel phrase would do.

 

Complain also to the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee of the Scottish Parliament.

But you already know none of the media outlets would touch it with a barge pole and as for Holyrood...

 

[Scott7 6,011]

Worth a try. Refusal to publish can always be stored in the ammunition box for later.

 

As for the SP the contortions of the Committee might be valuable as negative publicity. Also a chance for Conservatives and respectable Labour to stick their heads above the parapet.

[Bill 13,717]

13 minutes ago, Scott7 said:

Worth a try. Refusal to publish can always be stored in the ammunition box for later.

 

As for the SP the contortions of the Committee might be valuable as negative publicity. Also a chance for Conservatives and respectable Labour to stick their heads above the parapet.

I admire your faith in miracles. Have you thought of Catholicism? ?

[Gonzo79 15,294]

It sounds, to me, like Club1872 have come down with a severe dose of paranoia.*

 

 

 

 

*insert multiple smileys here

Edited March 1, 2019 by Gonzo79

[Scott7 6,011]

9 minutes ago, Bill said:

Have you thought of Catholicism? 

Quite often. Tragicomedy on an epic scale.

[BEARGER 1,830]

2 hours ago, Bluedell said:

Club 1872 statement

 

Dear Member,

On 23rd February, James Dornan MSP, during a Twitter exchange in which he misrepresented the Club 1872 position on unacceptable behaviour, made the false allegation that “Club 1872 abuse me regularly on their website." This statement by Mr Dornan was an outright lie.

Club 1872 has not mentioned him on our website, let alone subjected him to regular “abuse”. We wrote to Mr Dornan, giving him the opportunity to delete his tweet and to make a public apology but we have received no response and no apology has been forthcoming. It is completely unacceptable for an elected representative to make demonstrably false accusations about our organisation or its individual directors, all of whom are volunteers. Mr Dornan’s risible attempts to ‘combat sectarianism’ by smearing groups and individuals, undermines genuine and sincere work against prejudice and discrimination. In doing so he raises questions not only of his competence to be Convenor of the Cross Party Group on Combatting SectarIanism but also of his fitness for public office at any level. We do not believe that Mr Dornan is a fit and proper person to act as convener of that group and we will now write to his colleagues to request his removal. It is incomprehensible that Mr Dornan was able to take up this position in the first place given his selective approach to sectarian issues - including an incident where he posed in front of the flag of a proscribed terrorist organisation. We will also contact Rangers to make them aware of this incident and to urge them to be extremely cautious over Mr Dornan’s publicity seeking, public announcement expressing his wish to meet with them.

Rangers and Club 1872 should always engage with any individual or group seeking to genuinely address issues around unacceptable behaviour. We firmly believe that Mr Dornan does not fall into that bracket.

 

The offending Tweet from Dornan.

 

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Feb 23

 

In what way have I misrepresented the facts? They talk about the issue being the ‘sensationalising’ of Sectarianism as the big issue and that’s a clear misrepresentation of the problem. Club 1872 abuse me regularly on their website so this doesn’t surprise me at all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Walterbear 557]

Whereas its Dornan himself who traduces swathes of innocent people by characterising us all as bigots. 

 

Hollyrood public standards is the correct place with solid evidence and political sponsor. 

Edited March 1, 2019 by Walterbear