match thread (image) [FT] Kilmarnock 2 - 1 Rangers (Defoe 12)

[craig 5,199]

5 hours ago, Rousseau said:

I have to disagree: when you see it again, McGregor had no chance...

 

We will agree to disagree then.  McGregor gets a glove to it which makes it look like Jones hit the corner.  He didn't hit the corner and his shot was more central.  McGregor should have done better - it was a grass (sic) cutter.

[Frankie 8,569]

1 minute ago, Rousseau said:

It is a joke; he should not be losing possession there. 

 

However, who can he possibly pass to? Other than McAuley? 

It's all well and good to make passes from the back but there's absolutely no excuse for getting caught in possession.  If nothing is on, nothing is on so send it long into the channel.

[Rousseau 10,636]

1 minute ago, craig said:

We will agree to disagree then.  McGregor gets a glove to it which makes it look like Jones hit the corner.  He didn't hit the corner and his shot was more central.  McGregor should have done better - it was a grass (sic) cutter.

It was sarcasm.

 

I agree; It shouldn't being going in. 

[Rousseau 10,636]

4 minutes ago, Frankie said:

It's all well and good to make passes from the back but there's absolutely no excuse for getting caught in possession.  If nothing is on, nothing is on so send it long into the channel.

Yes, of course. I agree 100%. I'm still incredulous that he did lose possession!

 

It was more of a general point about our inability to pass it and build attacks through the phases. For me, Davis and Arfield should be in view, with the option to pass to. It's a structural issue, or player positioning. 

[MacK1950 2,378]

Maybe McGregor should have got it but stop blaming him for the deficiencies in front of him,Worrall has no excuse whatsoever and the pass made to Tav was inappropriate in midfield.

[Frankie 8,569]

Just now, Rousseau said:

Yes, of course. I agree 100%. I'm still incredulous that he did lose possession!

 

It was more of a general point about our inability to pass it and build attacks through the phases. For me, Davis and Arfield should be in view, with the option to pass to. 

Agreed and I don't understand why they weren't given the diamond formation.  I assume Davis dropped into the left channel to provide width but Arfield should be in a much more obvious position at least.

 

To be honest, as much as we were comfortable enough before they scored, maintaining possession and creating space to get forward wasn't really happening anyway and our goal came out of nowhere really.  Far too often we seen situations like the image above last night.

 

We seem to play ourselves into cul-de-sacs all too often and the management team really need to find a solution.

[craig 5,199]

2 hours ago, der Berliner said:

I noticed our failures, but 5 away games in the first 6 fixtures after the winter break does not help, not least when it is against Killie, Livingston and Co..

 

And for the record, I don't make excuses, I remark on things that ARE A FACTOR in what happens. That does not excuse our failings. If it helps you dwelling on our shortcomings to vent your frustration, so be it. But don't tell me to join in and forget the rest. It is in fact a very "German" approach to anything football to solely concentrate on oneself, so if you beat a team it is because you are top notch and the best, but if you loose, it has nothing to do with the opposition, pitch, whatever, but solely your own shortcomings. That is one sort of reality perception, but not mine.

 

I've told often enough e.g. told how much I dislike our centre-halfs playing triangles with our DMs or the goalie, inviting the opposition to press them ever deeper and make errors. SG said as much in der post-match interview - which makes it even more annoying. Killie did what they could, pounced upon two errors and we never really build any momentum after their first goal. Seen that often enough, starting in the days of MW. Teams sussed our approach out after about half a season and stopped us playing ... and we never seemed able to adapt.

 

SG brought in Defoe and (in many ways a travesty that we only start this now) we had two strikers on the park. Everything might have gone totally different, had we scored another goal and not gifted them the equalizer. But as the game wore on, it clearly showed that there was hardly any cohesion between defence and midfield, no options were provided, no-one really took responsibility. By then we should have reverted to 4-4-2 with two real wingers, or 3-5-2 with McCrorie into the DM role, someone who has the energy to hold his own against the Killie guys. But I repeat myself here and until we change that 4-3-3 which simply doesn't work against every team in Scotland, any debate is in vein.

 

Going by yesterday, I would vote for 3-5-2 at Livingston,

 

McGregor

 

Goldson - Katic -Halliday

 

McCrorie - Jack

 

Candeias - Davis - Kent

 

Defoe - Morelos

 

... with either of the DMs staying back or getting the license to join the attack. In fact, should we have the ball, Halliday might just as well join the midfield and let McCrorie and JAck move even further forward. It worked against the Scum.

 

EDIT: As for the fixture list ... it does have to do with building momentum. Our fixtures in the coming weeks - intentionally or not - are tailor made to keep us from getting any momentum whatsoever. It might be a coincident that we start at the most difficult venue aside from the Scumhut, against the 3rd best team in the country. Same with the Scum playing host to the worst side. But the amount of away fixtures as opposed to a simple Home-Away pattern is at least strange.

What you seem to be completely ignoring is that if we have 5 out of the 1st 6 fixtures this year away from home (1 or 2 of them are Cup ties, right ?) then, at some point, we have the same set of fixtures at home.  And, likewise, if Cewltic have 4 out of 5 at home then, at some point, they have the same set of fixtures away from home.

 

The fixture list evens itself out.. 

 

Using the fixture list is such a feeble excuse. 

[craig 5,199]

14 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

It is a joke; he should not be losing possession there. 

 

However, who can he possibly pass to? Other than McAuley? 

As that moved on he could have passed to Halliday who, despite in that clip showing him moving forward, he dropped back to offer an angle.

 

It was a howler, absolute howler.

[JohnMc 2,754]

16 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

It is a joke; he should not be losing possession there. 

 

However, who can he possibly pass to? Other than McAuley? 

Well he's got Tav clear on the right for a flighted pass, Halliday is pulling away from his man onto the left, Jack can come short for a quick pass to feet and back to Worrell again to create space in behind him, McAuley can come to him either taking the pass or drawing the attacker creating even more space for Tav and of course McGregor is clear behind him. He had options, he just wanted too much time and took none of them. 

[craig 5,199]

For those suggesting Gerrard could/should be sacked for our current points total (nobody on here but there are always some...).

 

Gio van Bronkhorst is leaving Feyenoord at the end of the season