FARE at game tonight!

[Gonzo79 15,294]

19 minutes ago, compo said:

It's a sad day when a colour upsets someone,  by the way my favourite colour is green .

It's not the colour itself, compo.  The flag was clearly an attempt to wind us up (a failure because most Bears have only good things to say about the away support last night).  

 

Don't worry.  I'll be wearing a full SS uniform and a Josef Fritzel mask when I attend the away match in December.?

Edited October 5, 2018 by Gonzo79

[MacK1950 2,378]

3 hours ago, BEARGER said:

Why do some find the Irish Tricolour provocative?

It was a team from Austria we were playing so I would expect their fans to be flying their national flag and not one from a country whose flag is abhorrent to many of our fans so feel that it was provocative.

Have no issues when fans fly flags of THEIR country.

[BEARGER 1,830]

14 minutes ago, MacK1950 said:

It was a team from Austria we were playing so I would expect their fans to be flying their national flag and not one from a country whose flag is abhorrent to many of our fans so feel that it was provocative.

Have no issues when fans fly flags of THEIR country.

I agree. But I don’t find it provocative in any way, in fact I think it makes the plastic paddy’s look pathetic as we know them to be. Why would any Rangerd fan find the Irish flag abhorrent? 

[Gonzo79 15,294]

I hope more opposing teams fans bring Irish flags to Ibrox and wave them whilst Rangers stuff them. 

 

If we get rid of wind ups and provocation at the football, we may as well go and watch polo or bowls instead.

 

By the way, a few of our fans had Serbia flags when we played Osijek (quite right too, in my opinion), so high horses won't be required.

[MacK1950 2,378]

20 minutes ago, BEARGER said:

Why would any Rangerd fan find the Irish flag abhorrent?

My supposition is that that particular flag is wholly associated to the mhanks other than solely Eire and as many on here abhor them(mhanks) so MIGHT be provocative,that's all.

[barca72 440]

1 hour ago, BEARGER said:

I agree. But I don’t find it provocative in any way, in fact I think it makes the plastic paddy’s look pathetic as we know them to be. Why would any Rangerd fan find the Irish flag abhorrent? 

I can't make up my mind as to whether you are naive or are being willfully obtuse. You do realise the symbolism of the tricolour to the PUL community?

 

https://www.infoplease.com/whats-symbolism-irish-flag
What's the Symbolism of the Irish Flag?
Symbolism of the Tricolour Flag of Ireland
 by Borgna Brunner

Rarely has a flag possessed such lasting relevance as that of the "Tricolour," the national flag of the Republic of Ireland. Its three equal stripes illustrate the Irish political landscape as accurately today as in 1848, the year the flag was first unfurled.
orange — standing for Irish Protestants
green — signifying Irish Catholics and the republican cause
white — representing the hope for peace between them
Why Orange?
The color orange is associated with Northern Irish Protestants because in 1690, William of Orange (William III) defeated the deposed King James II, a Roman Catholic, in the fateful Battle of the Boyne near Dublin. King William was the leader of England, Scotland, and Ireland and his victory secured Protestant dominance over the island. The primary colonizers of northern Ireland were the English (who were Protestant Anglicans) and the Scots (who were Protestant Presbyterians). To this day, Protestants in Northern Ireland are sometimes called Orangemen and they celebrate the anniversary of the Battle of the Boyne each July 12th.

Green as the Emerald IsleHarp Flag - Unofficial flag of Ireland
It's widely agreed that the green in the Irish flag has something to do with shamrocks and verdant landscapes. However, it's more critical to the Irish Catholic nationalists represented by this flag color that green symbolizes revolution. An earlier, unofficial Irish flag —the gold harp on a green background— served from 1798 until the early twentieth century as a symbol of nationalism. The harp is still Ireland’s national symbol today. As the revolutionary James Connolly wrote, just weeks before he participated in the Easter Rebellion (1916) that led to his execution by firing squad:

"For centuries the green flag of Ireland was a thing accurst and hated by the English garrison in Ireland, as it is still in their inmost hearts...
...the green flag of Ireland will be solemnly hoisted over Liberty Hall as a symbol of our faith in freedom, and as a token to all the world that the working class of Dublin stands for the cause of Ireland, and the cause of Ireland is the cause of a separate and distinct nationality."
—Worker's Republic, April 8, 1916

Lasting Truce Between Orange and Green
Although it was not adopted as the national flag of Ireland until independence from Britain on December 6, 1921, the Tricolour was first unfurled in public on March 7, 1848, by the militant nationalist Thomas Francis Meagher1, (the stripes, however, were arranged differently at that time). Explaining the significance of the Tricolour, Meagher expressed a hope for his country:
The white in the center signifies a lasting truce between the "Orange" and the "Green," and I trust that beneath its folds the hands of the Irish Protestant and the Irish Catholic may be clasped in generous and heroic brotherhood.

 

Misplaced trust I'm afraid, go read about the various genocidal attacks perpetrated against the Irish Protestants under the flag's symbolism during the last century.

Now jump to close to the present day where there are various occurrences whereby the Irish tricolour is used symbolically. Take for instance the 'Butcher of the Bogside's' funeral. When McGuinness went to his grave he was neither repentant of nor ever resiled his PIRA murderous days. However, he had to be wrapped in the tricolour - for the symbolism you understand. ...

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/news-analysis/martin-mcguinness-funeral-at-the-last-it-was-the-ira-man-being-buried-not-the-mere-politician-35560789.html
... "The Sinn Fein president's opportunism was an unwelcome reminder of how the republican movement exploits important public events, such as this funeral and last year's 1916 centenary, as retrospective endorsements of what poet Michael Longley called on Irish radio last week "our tawdry little civil war".
Adams didn't hide it during his graveside oration to his late friend, insisting he was "not a terrorist, he was a freedom fighter".
He even had the shameless hypocrisy to urge people in Northern Ireland to "learn to like one another, to be friends", as if he was not the very one who castigates unionists as "b*******".
What happened at St Columba's Church was for public consumption. The graveside oration was for the republican family. There were none of those infamous paramilitary trappings, but it was not without significance that this devoted family man was buried in the republican plot at the City Cemetery, and that there was a traditional guard of honour at his graveside."

 

No doubt there are many Irish citizens who are proud of their state flag and should be. In Ireland that is okay, however, in the U.K. we have come to see many instances where it is used in clearly provocative situations and has a menacing symbolism. This use can induce abhorrence in some quarters.

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I thought that the white stripe represented the papacy?!

 

Never taking the Irish tricolour to the football again! 

[Gonzo79 15,294]

We're getting a bit off topic here.  FARE attend our games in order to ensure we behave in a way that suits their yahoo-driven agenda.  

 

Their agenda is quite obvious.  

 

As soon as we look like winning things again, the usual whining about nasty songs will rear it's head.  If it's not TBB, it'll be something else.  I'm surprised they haven't whined about us calling King James's rebels 'scum' yet.  Surely that's an attack on inclusiveness.

 

FARE can GTF.  Bunch of tramps doing BS jobs.

Edited October 5, 2018 by Gonzo79

[RANGERRAB 3,674]

We had a 6 year absence from European football until we played Progres last year.

 

And FARE start to show up as soon as we’re back playing in Europe. Why?

 

They never showed up when we were playing in the lower leagues did they?And they don’t show up for SPFL games either.

 

It is clear they have an agenda against us which must be met head on. Fight fire with fire. What is their objective & who is setting it? A higher profileRangers CEO or MD should be asking these questions.

 

I’ve long suspected they’re still closely associated with the yahoos. FARE’s head honcho was(andmaybe still is) Piara Power whose partner was a yahoo who hated Rangers & made up all sorts of stories about our support IIRC.

 

FARE are the ‘fascist left’ as the excellent DM columnist Richard Littlejohn would call them. Kid-on socialists who are control freaks with an agenda against specific targets they don’t like for one reason or another.

 

However if they had any credibility surely they’d be pursuing the yahoos whose support have been constantly fined by UEFA over the past few years. In particular the game against Hapoel Be’er Sheva at the giro dome which should have seen them booted out the CL there & then.

 

But I suspect anti-semitism is perfectly acceptable withinFARE given their bias & clear agendas. 

[Gonzo79 15,294]

"What do you do for a living, dad?".

 

"I attend football matches* and try to hear offensive chants.".

 

"My dad is a twat!".

 

 

 

 

*usually at Ibrox