Rangers staff risk stoking sectarianism hints Glasgow council boss Susan Aitken

[BlackSocksRedTops 3,806]

3 minutes ago, cooponthewing said:

I agree with a lot of what Bill says. We know the SNP are anti Rangers and anti Unionist. We fly the union flag and are the only club in Scotland proud to be British.

 

The SNP are no friends on Rangers and some of our support continue to help them gain political power. If the term collaborators is not accurate then what and how would you describe their position?

 

I have never met a pleasant nationalist anywhere in the world; be it Scotland or anywhere else (some of the guys on here exempt) . It’s the politics of division and separatism. Nationalism can’t be compromised or diluted, there is no relenting until their goal is achieved. Anyone in their way must be eliminated. 

 

We, as a club and support, are in their way.

Sorry buddy that is utter ballacks and a masterclass in sweeping generalisation.

[JohnMc 2,801]

1 hour ago, Bill said:

Thanks for biting. Before I answer your question, can you help me out ... have any of the organisations or nationalities you mention been guilty of the same antagonism against Rangers and its fans as the SNP. I'm not aware they have and have no issue with any of them but since you choose to name them here, in the context of this topic, I suspect you have some knowledge I don't. Once again thanks for biting.

Are you asking me if any Roman Catholics or Irish have been guilty of antagonism towards Rangers, Bill? 

[JohnMc 2,801]

41 minutes ago, stewarty said:

We will not find any political party expousing a position on what football team to support so thats a dead-end argument.   

 

What is more interesting is the pervasive culture whereby a fledgling politician might deem it prudent to their career to keep their Rangers allegiance to themselves.

This, this, this! This is the debate we should be having, this is the question we should be trying to answer. 

[JohnMc 2,801]

39 minutes ago, Bluedell said:

The SNP's decisions are all taken by individuals, many of which have shown anti-Rangers feelings.

 

On the flip-side, I can't think of one SNP official either at SNP or local level who admits to being a Rangers supporter. Why is that?

I had lunch with one yesterday, but you're right that he doesn't shout about it. Now, this isn't something that's peculiar to SNP politicians though.

As Stewarty asks in the post above you, figuring out why that is might be a worthwhile discussion. 

[Bill 13,717]

1 hour ago, stewarty said:

That might be the more nuanced position you took, but initially you accused SNP voting Bears to be collaborators.   You've deliberately fanned the flames on that point so lets not try and be cute now.

Oh do you really think so?

[Bill 13,717]

20 minutes ago, BlackSocksRedTops said:

Sorry buddy that is utter ballacks and a masterclass in sweeping generalisation.

Nothing sweeping about that of course ?

[Bill 13,717]

1 hour ago, Gaffer said:

Bill:  I think it will be interesting to see your response to JohnMc's questions.  I know you have strong views on this and I don't think anyone would argue with your right to hold such a position.  The problem I have is when someone (like you) tries to create a set of conditions with which any supporter must comply.  Maybe I've picked you (and others) up incorrectly, which is why I refer to John's points.  I'm really interested in your thoughts on what he asked.

Here's what I think. I think you should think whatever you want and hold whatever position suits you. How fair minded and liberal is that?

[Bill 13,717]

24 minutes ago, JohnMc said:

Are you asking me if any Roman Catholics or Irish have been guilty of antagonism towards Rangers, Bill? 

No, why would you think I was?

[Bill 13,717]

20 minutes ago, JohnMc said:

This, this, this! This is the debate we should be having, this is the question we should be trying to answer. 

Great stuff. What 's your view on it?

[JohnMc 2,801]

14 minutes ago, Bill said:

No, why would you think I was?

Well, mainly because that's literally what you asked me.